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look I'm just not ready ask Laraine out

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on this planet is gonna make me change

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my mind that's a clip from the sci-fi

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classic back to the future and although

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today's show is in about time travel it

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is about changing your mind changing

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your beliefs but as often happens on

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these shows it kind of turned into a

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show about something else I mean how

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else can you explain how I could go from

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this you seem to follow data wherever it

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leads so that's what I care about it and

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that's what I hear from your show it's

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awesome it's rare to this well well I

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would end it there because you know you

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want to change my mind you know I don't

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think it's gonna happen you know do I

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have to justify my faith to you what's

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your need to change my mind that I get

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that it sounds like I'm desperate to

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change your mind I'm really not this is

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the skeptical process for me it's like

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follow the data wherever it leads and I

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see in you someone who's following the

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data and then when it comes to this

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what's like well no I don't really need

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to follow that data it's like I hear all

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the time from people and they say I'm a

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smart guy if that was true I would know

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it so this episode has a lot of layers

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apart and lay them all out and explain

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him to you but I don't really think

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that's what you want or what I want it's

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better for you just to listen to it

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experience it and see what you think I

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episode has a lot of political flavor to

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it but not for the sake of politics this

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believe why I believed it and then how I

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came to change those beliefs and the

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fact that those beliefs happened to be

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about Donald Trump are just really

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secondary I guess so just one more note

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it to you to decide whether

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creepy sexual kind of perverted stuff

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the Donald Trump is mixed up with is

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better or worse than the accused

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pedophile

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rested this crazy stuff when you have to

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think it's pointless but I do think this

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process of trying to figure out what's

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real even if it requires us to look into

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the abyss I think that process is

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important I want to stay open to that

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process and I hope you're willing to go

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something maybe I got something

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completely wrong and I think I'll be

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you to do in this episode so see what

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today we welcome Edie Opperman to

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skeptic oh it is a private investigator

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turned independent journalist radio

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broadcaster and podcaster and the

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creator and host of the very very

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Opperman report Edie welcome to

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sceptical thanks so much for joining me

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thank you so much I'm happy to be here

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well great you know I've just had an

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awesome time binging on the Oppermann

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gotta tell folks they're gonna see is

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this thing unravels the connections with

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skeptic oh and we're all about but the

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deep investigations that you do into

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news stories that others are just well

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they're just unwilling or for some

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reason they're unable to go there this

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is amazing work and you're really to be

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congratulated and I'm just blown away by

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what you've done here No thank you very

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much I appreciate that very much I

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really do well and I gotta add you know

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the thing that really drew me and got me

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excited about your work is you seem to

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follow the the motto of this show

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skeptic Oh which is follow the data

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wherever it leads so you have guests on

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your show who clearly have a different

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political view of from yours or maybe a

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different worldview than yours and you

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don't seem to care about any of that

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you're just like hey did the guy do a

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good investigation has he risen to the

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you want to speak to that am I getting

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that right yeah I guess the way I look

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at it is you know I'm here to take their

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statement and get them down on the

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record I'm not really a they here to

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argue what people convinced them you

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people you know and you know for the

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people to you know let happen meet and

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ask tough questions Hackney and nail him

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to the wall because when I'm working as

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a private investigator taking witness

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statements you know you don't get into a

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debate with the guy am i trying to

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influence what he's trying to say I want

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to get his record down on the statement

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later on we can cross-examine him on the

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witness stand but you kind of wanna have

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establish a rapport get them comfortable

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FBI agent with the anthrax case and if

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people listen to that carefully you know

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I asked them a lot of questions and he

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you know I don't know what more you want

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you want me to start yelling at him hey

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the whole thing was a cover-up and you

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know it's so just take a statement and

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it's there for the record people didn't

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concede it well you know let me say I

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think you asked great questions you

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asked questions that you know they they

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come from an investigator's standpoint I

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can tell that because they're different

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it's like wow that really does kind of

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get to something without revealing all

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your cards which I see but what I was

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really alluding to is something a little

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bit different and maybe it's just in

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your DNA and you don't even see it but

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there's a lot of people who talk a good

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game about just show me the data and you

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know I'll be convinced show me the facts

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but they don't really live that and so

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guy and we'll talk about that a little

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bit you have no problem talking to

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people who have conservative political

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views and you just want to know their

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this seems to me and what I admire and

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the link to skeptic code is you seem to

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be open to what they say as long as

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they've done an investigation that makes

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sense and man that is just rare these

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days because everyone has a real hard

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time getting out of their own beliefs

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and saying evaluating whether or not

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they can believe somebody based on the

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evidence yeah I definitely what you're

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talking about and it's been very few

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disgusted I just had like I'm thinking

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about that guy Kesler you know who

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started defending torture and stuff like

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that and I just couldn't take it anymore

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everybody's all women you know I tell

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is a top ermine well you know I'm a dad

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I think I did a good job with this kid

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she's a president of debate team getting

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accepted so a lot of really good

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colleges she wants to go into journalism

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or politics or the law

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so first I'm a dad I'm a Christian you

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know I believe in Jesus Christ I try and

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live my life according to the precepts

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of the Bible and stuff like that you

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want to others you want to you you don't

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want kind of stuff love your brother

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nice things I am a leftist left-leaning

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gonna leftist man I'm not you know I

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look at you go Chavez with suspicion

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guys now left enough for me I'm a

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socialist I believe we should be

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nationalized in the oil industry and

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socialist not this kind of wishy-washy

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stuff you see Bernie Sanders and stuff I

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am private investigator for a living I

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investigator and a digital forensic

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investigator I do all the regular stuff

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of PI's do acid searches and locates

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reports I specialize in that a lot of

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tracing invented this search where I can

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dating websites and catch people

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phone or hard drive we capture all the

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information off the hard drive or the

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that can be used in court that's pretty

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radio host I like to call myself I like

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to have conversations with people and

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meet the most interesting people in the

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world and I enjoy that I'm a single guy

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I'm out there in a dating a hopeless

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dating world of Las Vegas and I guess

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great you're also you're a guy from the

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yes you got a little bit of that og vibe

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things and seeing some different people

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that kind of work on both sides of the

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street if you will and

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that comes through and your personality

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and your show do you want to speak about

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that background at all well yeah I've

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lived an interesting life you might say

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really fascinating neighbor in the

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Bronson Soundview neighborhood right by

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Schuyler house buildings right between

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Sam you have anew and Parkchester

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nono st. Lawrence Avenue on there the

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number six train line and I fascinating

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and I went to school the same school

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it's a sort of my arrow went to the

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Supreme Court justice and Afrika

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Bambaataa was came out of our

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neighborhood and the friend of ours you

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back then a fascinating they brought

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artists and community activists and

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stuff it all with street gangs and stuff

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is a lot of crime we left there we went

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firemen but also a lot of organized

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crime figures you know you'd see them in

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the papers and stuff like that back in

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those days you know we you know we could

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say hey Jess so your uncle owned the

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newspapers you know running numbers and

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stuff and they would say no there's no

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such thing as mafia you know so you had

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to say there's no such thing swap and I

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had to say that so we grew up with all

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those characters and then later on I

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became a hung out in New York City with

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the yuppies I was a political activist

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with the AJ Weber men and oh boy almost

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characters down there at nine Bleecker

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Street and the punk scene down there and

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on the Lower East Side and Bowery

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Bleecker Washington Square Park and all

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that stuff and met a lot of famous

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people a lot of course passed a lot of

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people went into the nightclub business

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for a while there in Manhattan ran with

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the Bulls in Spain lived with a gospel

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tent ministry for about six years I

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traveled a gospel tent ministry up and

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down Maine to to New York down sit as

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low as a New Jersey southern New Jersey

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and stuff so you know interesting I

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found an interesting life I can't

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complain that is interesting quite a

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quite a varied background there and it

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does play into your show as people will

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listen to it and they'll hear how some

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of that background plays in tell you

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what I wanted to do try and do today

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because you know I sent you this long

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list of all the different

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topics we might cover and as you

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correctly pointed out Mook would spend

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10 hours 20 hours and anyone who listens

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to the Opera Mon report will understand

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that you do these deep dives I mean you

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keep going and going and going on these

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stories to as far as you can so there's

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gonna be a little bit of that flavor in

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there today but we can of course cover

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at all what I really want to focus on is

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this idea of beliefs and how we form our

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beliefs how we change our beliefs how as

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I just mentioned a minute ago how

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frustrating it is to hear people say oh

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just show me the facts just show me the

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facts I'll believe it just tell me and

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you show them the facts they want to run

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up as far away and as fast as they can

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from changing their beliefs and we want

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to talk about I think your experience

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with that what you've found what you

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think that means

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and also my experience and I was going

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to put myself as kind of a a guinea pig

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a lab rat here because you know one of

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the belief change things that I've gone

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through just recently courtesy of the

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opperman report is this understanding

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that I've come to about Donald Trump and

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I'm almost embarrassed to say now I'm

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not a super political guy that's not

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where the show has come from but I was I

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guess afraid to really look into the

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things that I had heard about Donald

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Trump until they were laid out on your

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show so again I'm embarrassed how slow I

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was to the party here but I want to put

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myself in the lab rat position here and

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dissect how that happened but I guess we

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have to start with the facts and since I

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wasn't aware of all the facts I'm sure

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there's other people out there who are

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not aware of all the facts and that is

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that Donald Trump is a creep I mean he's

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a sexual pervert and you've disclosed

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that rather thoroughly on your show but

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let me turn it over to you telling me

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how you would explain that to

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on who's starting Cana just from Ground

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Zero is open-minded doesn't have a point

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of view one way or another you know I

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tell you judging by that the emails and

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the messages I get you're probably the

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only person who's ever changed her mind

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over that Trump because they're reelin

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hit me first as far as I can tell

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everybody still died or the people who

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support him from the beginning are still

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diehard supporters in my first of all I

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grew up in New York City so I saw Trump

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you know from the early early days and

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stuff you know just in the news and

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stuff and I've had my own little brushes

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up against Trump and stuff I tell this

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story about how I'm always that girl

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Marla maples when she came out in the

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news and you know she was got caught

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cheating on Trump's wife Ivana she went

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hiding out she was hiding out from the

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paparazzi at my friend's apartment I

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used to hang out with these flight

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attendants and she was hiding out in

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their apartment and I made this little

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joke about hey let's go in there and tap

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the phone so we could salted an answer

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Enquirer so I made that joke later on to

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some people who knew Trump and it got

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back to him with him with such a healthy

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situation for me and it was one time at

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the US Open where he was giving me dirty

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looks throughout the whole US Open

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tennis game there so growing up in New

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York I was very familiar with Trump and

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went to Trump Tower all the time to

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Atlantic City he's got a Linux at you

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all the time all the ties and fights and

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stuff so very familiar with trompin is a

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background the allegations about Trump

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that we all knew back in New York this

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kind of show him in common they're

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cheating on his wife this kind of

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character now in my work I deal with a

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lot of stuff where people are involved

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in romance scams people are a victim of

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scams they're victims of con artists and

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I know they come they ki get him on the

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phone I got him all convinced listen

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this guy's stealing your money he's a

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Nigerian he doesn't really love you

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you gotta cancel your email you got to

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change your phone number don't ever talk

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to this guy again oh oh you're right

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you're right I don't know what I was

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thinking a half hour later they're back

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on the phone with me but he says you're

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the one that's trying to steal from me

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people people want to believe their

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conman they want to believe their common

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loves them they don't want to believe

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they've been conned they don't want to

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believe they've been tricked they don't

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want to think that they've been gullible

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and no one wants to think that I don't

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want to think that I want to I've been

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ripped off I've been scammed I don't

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like to even think about it but and so I

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just I can smell that in Trump the con

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in him is so obvious to me Trump

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University all these kind of things and

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then you know you start hearing these

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stories about you know Trump modeling

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agency where he's importing these little

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girls as young as 12 years old and he's

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got them stacked up in his little studio

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apartments six to a studio and bunk beds

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you know and then he's he's sending them

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out and he's modeling gigs and he

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charged them for limousine and FedEx and

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stuff like that there in this country

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brings me this country on these hp1

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visas claiming they're gonna be making

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$80,000 a year this little girl from

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Haiti

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and she winds up making $12,000 a year

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because of all the expenses associated

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with Trump modeling agency and if we

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can't jump a little bit ahead in the

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story here because Trump is now what

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you're doing is connecting that which he

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clearly is is child trafficking yes the

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guy is a sexual pervert now we've you

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find that out later and then you tie

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that back to the modeling thing because

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otherwise you know it's easy to

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apologize well maybe it's this maybe it

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says but you put the pieces together at

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80% of those visas that he's asked for

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for to let people into the country to

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work for him or for this modeling agency

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and there are these young girls who are

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the same kind of girls that Epstein

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Lolita Express everyone wants to hear

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about you know and knows is is a

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horribly terrible deal

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the connection is is right there so I

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don't want to jump too far ahead but I

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don't want to I don't want to let people

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play a play through their mind oh you

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know there isn't any really hard stuff

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here I mean do you got a ton of really

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hard stuff and I know you're gonna get

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to it oh yeah also too you know if you

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even go back and listen to the old

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Howard Stern Show when when Trump would

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come on talking about going into his

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teen modeling agency you know and his

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team pageant team Miss USA what is that

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all Trump one teen US with USA pageant

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for you know and even there's an

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interview to where Marla maples says

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yeah that's right up your alley and when

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she was getting toward the end she

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wanted a divorce him so but then like

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you said so all the stuff comes out

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about Jeffrey Epstein the notorious now

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he's famous tip of everybody's tongue

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I'm watching this morning on morning joe

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they're talking about

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even though they've been friends with

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Trump for years and years convicted

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pedophile lives right next door to Trump

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tellin mar-a-lago there's a Vicky Ward a

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New Yorker answered article from way

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back in 2008 around that time talking to

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my Trump saying Jeffrey Epstein has been

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my friend for 15 years and people say he

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likes beautiful women just as much as I

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do many on the younger side boy Jeff

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sure likes all I have is fun so it's not

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like this was a mystery what Jeffrey

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Epstein was up to

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Trump has fallen on Epstein's playing

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Epstein has flown on trump's plane

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Epstein flew on Trump's plane and he

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brought a little teenage girl with him

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on trump's plane we have an eyewitness

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today who wrote an article in Golf

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Digest and he said he had a little girl

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with him she was all made up to look

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older but she was a young girl I don't

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know how young I don't know it was legal

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or not but he was there we got Epstein's

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main victim because Victoria Roberts was

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a trump employee worked at mar-a-lago

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and 16 years old in the folding towels

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there and their little girls of the

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ladies locker room where she was picked

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up by Gish Layne Maxwell and turned over

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to Epstein and then ultimately turned

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over to Prince Andrew and Dershowitz and

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all these other people she claims she's

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been turned over to so we have all those

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connections okay Trump's been on

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Epstein's playing his own playing what

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do you need to be an MC explain for

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little sidetrack here for just a second

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and we could do a million of these so I

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don't want to do too many but Dershowitz

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is interesting Alan Dershowitz Harvard

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Law School professor one of the most

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high-profile lawyers in the country and

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oh just so happen defense attorney for

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Epstein when he's on trial for these

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horrible crimes against children and he

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gets the thing reduced down to almost

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nothing but he is eventually convicted

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so maybe you just want to speak to that

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a little bit in terms how high-powered

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these guys are and then tying it back

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again to the deep deep connection that

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has been glossed over between Epstein

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and Trump but you're doing you're laying

539
00:21:04,820 --> 00:21:03,960
out the story wonderfully so I don't

540
00:21:06,830 --> 00:21:04,830
want to stop you go ahead

541
00:21:08,820 --> 00:21:06,840
well Dershowitz was actually friends

542
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:08,830
with Epstein before he was attorney

543
00:21:13,290 --> 00:21:11,410
and an Epstein was donating huge amounts

544
00:21:14,610 --> 00:21:13,300
of money to Harvard Law School as in

545
00:21:18,270 --> 00:21:14,620
fact he seemed walking around Harvard

546
00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:18,280
the t-shirt all time so there's that and

547
00:21:23,850 --> 00:21:21,130
also to a gosh lean max what no I mean

548
00:21:25,140 --> 00:21:23,860
Virginia Roberts claims that dersh which

549
00:21:26,550 --> 00:21:25,150
was right that she was forced to have

550
00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:26,560
sex with Dershowitz as well she says

551
00:21:30,510 --> 00:21:28,510
with that while she was servicing

552
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:30,520
Epstein Hirsch which was right there in

553
00:21:33,690 --> 00:21:32,050
the same room just having a conversation

554
00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:33,700
there's just a natural conversation

555
00:21:39,030 --> 00:21:36,370
that's how bizarre that a relationship

556
00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:39,040
was and there she was in his defense of

557
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:40,510
all that says well the way I met them

558
00:21:47,310 --> 00:21:43,210
mr. Epstein was at a party at Evelyn

559
00:21:49,710 --> 00:21:47,320
Rothschilds house that's his idea of

560
00:21:51,330 --> 00:21:49,720
defending this situation so he got an

561
00:21:53,490 --> 00:21:51,340
Epstein that's an interesting character

562
00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:53,500
who grew up in Brooklyn we know nothing

563
00:21:57,450 --> 00:21:55,120
about his parents and working-class

564
00:21:59,130 --> 00:21:57,460
people he went to a Welcome Back Kotter

565
00:22:00,240 --> 00:21:59,140
type high school in Brooklyn I always

566
00:22:02,250 --> 00:22:00,250
forget the name of it but it was like

567
00:22:04,530 --> 00:22:02,260
one honest type of like Coney Island

568
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:04,540
high school went on to this big

569
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:06,490
brokerage firm first he wanted to teach

570
00:22:10,590 --> 00:22:08,650
at a at a middle school

571
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:10,600
Dalton school in Manhattan with a little

572
00:22:13,740 --> 00:22:11,770
girls wear those little Catholic school

573
00:22:16,770 --> 00:22:13,750
outfits I became friends with a little

574
00:22:18,090 --> 00:22:16,780
girl her father brought him into one of

575
00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:18,100
these brokerage house ID which once

576
00:22:22,890 --> 00:22:20,140
Lehman Brothers or or Stern's one of

577
00:22:25,710 --> 00:22:22,900
those if again and then went out on his

578
00:22:28,170 --> 00:22:25,720
own had one one client Lesley Wexler

579
00:22:29,340 --> 00:22:28,180
who's the guy behind Victoria's Secret's

580
00:22:30,810 --> 00:22:29,350
and the limited and all kind of stuff

581
00:22:32,610 --> 00:22:30,820
like this when you wonder why when you

582
00:22:34,230 --> 00:22:32,620
see the little kids at the limited - and

583
00:22:35,370 --> 00:22:34,240
those outfits or the limited to where

584
00:22:37,890 --> 00:22:35,380
these little girl would dress like

585
00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:37,900
well let's see what slur owns that place

586
00:22:40,190 --> 00:22:39,310
you might wonder why what's going on

587
00:22:44,670 --> 00:22:40,200
there

588
00:22:45,780 --> 00:22:44,680
so a notorious behavior all throughout

589
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:45,790
Manhattan

590
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:47,890
if you read the Vicky Ward article from

591
00:22:51,930 --> 00:22:49,930
way back talking about parties at an

592
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:51,940
Epstein house where there was a bunch of

593
00:22:56,670 --> 00:22:54,610
teenage Eastern European girls who look

594
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:56,680
like prostitutes you know his

595
00:23:01,550 --> 00:22:58,720
relationship with the Jean Luc Brunel

596
00:23:05,010 --> 00:23:01,560
the modeling scout who was a notorious

597
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:05,020
60-minutes expose on him about giving

598
00:23:09,030 --> 00:23:07,690
roofies and stuff to models I've had

599
00:23:10,410 --> 00:23:09,040
I've interviewed some models that know

600
00:23:11,940 --> 00:23:10,420
all these characters that a couple of

601
00:23:14,130 --> 00:23:11,950
shows on I'm one with Barbara pilling

602
00:23:16,170 --> 00:23:14,140
they just came out who talks about how

603
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:16,180
Trump hit on her when she was 16 years

604
00:23:20,850 --> 00:23:18,970
old at a party and that she met a young

605
00:23:22,150 --> 00:23:20,860
girl who was a I think was a Haitian

606
00:23:24,340 --> 00:23:22,160
girl she said

607
00:23:26,830 --> 00:23:24,350
was 17 that dated Trump and was dating

608
00:23:28,390 --> 00:23:26,840
Trump for a while we hear other stories

609
00:23:30,250 --> 00:23:28,400
have come forward since then about other

610
00:23:33,220 --> 00:23:30,260
members of the Trump family same exact

611
00:23:33,790 --> 00:23:33,230
story recently in the past couple of

612
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:33,800
years

613
00:23:39,550 --> 00:23:37,370
Trump employees dating Trump men okay

614
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:39,560
and they're underage so this stuff is

615
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:42,890
going on up until today I don't see how

616
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:44,930
you can deny any of this Trump and

617
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:46,730
Epstein were co-defendants in a lawsuit

618
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:49,490
where there were three affidavits of

619
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:51,650
witnesses all stating the same thing

620
00:23:55,570 --> 00:23:53,090
that this little thirteen-year-old girl

621
00:23:57,660 --> 00:23:55,580
was raped by Trump and raped by Epstein

622
00:24:00,910 --> 00:23:57,670
there was another girl named Maria who

623
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:00,920
disappeared we have a Wayne Madison did

624
00:24:04,210 --> 00:24:02,330
some investigation into this he claims

625
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:04,220
he located and identified the young girl

626
00:24:08,170 --> 00:24:06,650
Maria I'm not talking percent convinced

627
00:24:10,060 --> 00:24:08,180
but it's out there well people don't

628
00:24:12,490 --> 00:24:10,070
look at that themselves it's Madison

629
00:24:16,030 --> 00:24:12,500
right yeah Madison yeah Wayne Mets and

630
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:16,040
yeah I had him on the show and he he

631
00:24:19,450 --> 00:24:17,410
bought a really long investigation

632
00:24:23,890 --> 00:24:19,460
article on us he's he believes he

633
00:24:25,210 --> 00:24:23,900
located Maria and in New Jersey that

634
00:24:27,730 --> 00:24:25,220
when she was abducted from New Jersey

635
00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:27,740
and put into it so it's possible I'm not

636
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:29,440
a hundred percent convinced no you know

637
00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:33,890
but so yeah so to Trump's connection

638
00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:36,310
with him with Epstein and you can't deny

639
00:24:40,660 --> 00:24:38,870
and when people start talking about

640
00:24:42,910 --> 00:24:40,670
things like Lolita expressed the the

641
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:42,920
airplane Epsilon's airplane and

642
00:24:49,120 --> 00:24:46,370
pedophile island a lot of that is is

643
00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:49,130
this info that's being there's a lot of

644
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:50,720
interference being run and that's a

645
00:24:55,060 --> 00:24:53,450
whole story where a lot of stuff isn't

646
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:55,070
coming out that should be coming out

647
00:24:58,960 --> 00:24:57,410
like the whole business about Epstein

648
00:25:01,510 --> 00:24:58,970
claiming that he helped create the

649
00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:01,520
Clinton Foundation I have a 24 page

650
00:25:05,010 --> 00:25:02,960
letter in my members section and

651
00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:05,020
opperman report comm written by

652
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:08,150
Epstein's lawyer Gerry left court who

653
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:09,650
was Abby Hoffman's lawyer

654
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:13,850
back in the 80s okay he became Epstein's

655
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:14,240
lawyer

656
00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:18,320
Florida Roy black one almost powerful

657
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:21,110
noise and in Miami in Florida a Ken

658
00:25:26,350 --> 00:25:24,050
Starr you know and the Ken Starr law

659
00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:26,360
firm a bunch of lawyers from there who

660
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:28,580
were all connected to this guy Alexander

661
00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:31,520
Acosta who later on Trump made the the

662
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:33,710
Secretary of Labor and was even floating

663
00:25:38,330 --> 00:25:34,890
him and to be a

664
00:25:39,860 --> 00:25:38,340
Attorney General okay Alexander Acosta

665
00:25:42,529 --> 00:25:39,870
gave a sweetheart deal to Epson we only

666
00:25:43,730 --> 00:25:42,539
got 13 months I've only served 13 once

667
00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:43,740
actually got 18 let's say I could've got

668
00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:47,039
40 years I got this sweetheart deal and

669
00:25:50,750 --> 00:25:48,960
then a cos that comes out with the

670
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:50,760
street page letter saying well you know

671
00:25:53,180 --> 00:25:52,110
I was under a lot of pressure I was

672
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:53,190
being investigated they were

673
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:54,960
investigating my family and following me

674
00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:56,850
and putting pressure on the Justice

675
00:26:00,799 --> 00:25:58,799
Department and the PI people in the Bush

676
00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:00,809
administration to force me to do this

677
00:26:06,830 --> 00:26:04,440
and he leaks that or he's not leaks it

678
00:26:09,230 --> 00:26:06,840
but he um puts that out through Conchita

679
00:26:11,389 --> 00:26:09,240
Sarnoff who wrote a book about the

680
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:11,399
trafficking about Epstein turns out

681
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:12,809
though Conchita thrown off his friends

682
00:26:15,259 --> 00:26:13,950
with Epstein she's friends with Trump

683
00:26:17,570 --> 00:26:15,269
and she's friends with - Lane Maxwell

684
00:26:19,820 --> 00:26:17,580
lifelong friends with these people and

685
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:19,830
her book is published by Victor

686
00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:23,850
Ostrovsky Mossad agent who wrote his own

687
00:26:28,730 --> 00:26:25,710
book about using deception to get your

688
00:26:31,460 --> 00:26:28,740
own way and through the Mossad and his

689
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:31,470
polishing company it has bizarre names

690
00:26:37,610 --> 00:26:35,370
like the cover story the true story the

691
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:37,620
cover-up you know I forget exactly what

692
00:26:41,149 --> 00:26:39,090
they are but they were along those lines

693
00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:41,159
so there's a lot a lot a lot of stuff

694
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:43,980
it's all Epstein stuff if you really

695
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:45,330
want to get into that man you could

696
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:48,570
spend weeks on it and unfortunately what

697
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:51,510
we see even in alternative media is a

698
00:26:55,370 --> 00:26:53,970
lot of the low-hanging fruit and what we

699
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:55,380
see on Morning Joe and stuff like that

700
00:27:00,200 --> 00:26:56,610
that's forgetting that's not that you

701
00:27:01,820 --> 00:27:00,210
know not even a tip the iceberg and so

702
00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:01,830
we've just given people a blast out of

703
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:04,500
the fire hydrant there and there's tons

704
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:07,440
and tons of shows that you've done you

705
00:27:11,570 --> 00:27:09,450
know people need to understand that when

706
00:27:12,769 --> 00:27:11,580
you talk about some of this stuff it's

707
00:27:15,110 --> 00:27:12,779
because you've actually had the people

708
00:27:18,289 --> 00:27:15,120
on the show and you've interviewed the

709
00:27:20,570 --> 00:27:18,299
models who were hit on at those parties

710
00:27:22,639 --> 00:27:20,580
you've interviewed people who've read

711
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:22,649
written books who've done thorough

712
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:25,320
investigations so it's really deep the

713
00:27:29,779 --> 00:27:27,570
amount of work that you've done into

714
00:27:31,879 --> 00:27:29,789
this and you're just to be commended for

715
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:31,889
it and I think it's give people a sense

716
00:27:37,549 --> 00:27:34,710
of what they can find at the Opera Man

717
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:37,559
report and if they go there please go

718
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:39,600
and become a member and support this guy

719
00:27:45,379 --> 00:27:43,110
because as he just said this work isn't

720
00:27:48,139 --> 00:27:45,389
being done by other people even other

721
00:27:48,820 --> 00:27:48,149
people in the alternative media as you

722
00:27:50,620 --> 00:27:48,830
just alluded

723
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:50,630
- you know everyone kind of gets the

724
00:27:56,830 --> 00:27:53,600
Lolita Express thing and that's become

725
00:27:59,799 --> 00:27:56,840
this cartoon version of what's going on

726
00:28:03,399 --> 00:27:59,809
and as you point out hey look at Mara

727
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:03,409
Largo look at Manhattan of course we're

728
00:28:08,350 --> 00:28:05,570
just staring into the abyss here but we

729
00:28:10,810 --> 00:28:08,360
do have to stare into the abyss a little

730
00:28:14,169 --> 00:28:10,820
bit in order to kind of gain some

731
00:28:16,690 --> 00:28:14,179
perspective on this right yeah and with

732
00:28:18,340 --> 00:28:16,700
the I've been so involved with this case

733
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:18,350
I've been reporting on this in fact five

734
00:28:22,029 --> 00:28:20,690
years now you know and there's mine in

735
00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:22,039
fact the first show I did on this I

736
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:23,360
couldn't even find a guest to come on

737
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:24,799
and talk about cuz no one was talking

738
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:26,330
about this nobody knew anything but this

739
00:28:30,820 --> 00:28:28,210
one first stood on this so I've become

740
00:28:32,139 --> 00:28:30,830
friendly and involved with the lawyers

741
00:28:33,490 --> 00:28:32,149
and their investigators and all kind of

742
00:28:35,710 --> 00:28:33,500
people involved either people firsthand

743
00:28:38,039 --> 00:28:35,720
that or Baba we don't come on the air so

744
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:38,049
you know well I can tell you right now

745
00:28:42,879 --> 00:28:41,330
with the settlement it's trying to be

746
00:28:46,419 --> 00:28:42,889
portrayed in the news and you know there

747
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:46,429
was just a settlement with Epstein and

748
00:28:52,690 --> 00:28:49,330
Brad Edwards who was the attorney for

749
00:28:54,340 --> 00:28:52,700
Virginia Roberts and and a couple of

750
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:54,350
other victims - against the US

751
00:28:58,450 --> 00:28:56,450
government because when the government

752
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:58,460
gave the sweetheart deal to Epstein they

753
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:00,799
never notified the victims so Brad

754
00:29:04,210 --> 00:29:02,090
Edwards took this case he's been

755
00:29:06,730 --> 00:29:04,220
handling on many many of these cases and

756
00:29:09,580 --> 00:29:06,740
it's hey Edie can you quickly sketch out

757
00:29:12,009 --> 00:29:09,590
the sweetheart deal I mean that is the

758
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:12,019
charges that Epstein faced down in

759
00:29:17,919 --> 00:29:15,710
Florida and then what happened well

760
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:17,929
there was 30 victims 30 little girls and

761
00:29:20,740 --> 00:29:20,090
you can read the the search warrant

762
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:20,750
affidavit

763
00:29:26,769 --> 00:29:24,289
I don't align the probable cause

764
00:29:28,210 --> 00:29:26,779
affidavit and it talks about how these

765
00:29:29,950 --> 00:29:28,220
investigators went to these little

766
00:29:31,389 --> 00:29:29,960
girl's houses and first they denied it

767
00:29:32,620 --> 00:29:31,399
you know just imagine you know you're

768
00:29:34,299 --> 00:29:32,630
sitting at ground dinner which a little

769
00:29:36,129 --> 00:29:34,309
15 year old girl cops come knocking on a

770
00:29:37,899 --> 00:29:36,139
door hey we need to talk to you about

771
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:37,909
your daughter she was being molested by

772
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:40,010
this guy and the kid denies it

773
00:29:42,909 --> 00:29:41,690
you know and then the parents go back

774
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:42,919
and tell him you know we talk to our

775
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:43,850
daughter here you're right everything

776
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:45,769
you're saying is true so they had about

777
00:29:51,090 --> 00:29:48,049
30 victims this Constanta Florida Palm

778
00:29:53,350 --> 00:29:51,100
Beach Police Department and video and

779
00:29:54,940 --> 00:29:53,360
all kinds of evidence when they did

780
00:29:57,310 --> 00:29:54,950
search his house he was tipped off that

781
00:29:59,379 --> 00:29:57,320
his house was gonna be searched and they

782
00:30:00,760 --> 00:29:59,389
had dismantled cameras and stuff like

783
00:30:02,230 --> 00:30:00,770
that were in the house he had taken down

784
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:02,240
all these nude photographs that he had

785
00:30:05,889 --> 00:30:02,570
all

786
00:30:07,060 --> 00:30:05,899
behind like that their high school

787
00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:07,070
transcripts like their school

788
00:30:12,159 --> 00:30:09,529
transcripts somehow Jeffrey Epstein had

789
00:30:13,870 --> 00:30:12,169
copies of these kids school transcripts

790
00:30:15,399 --> 00:30:13,880
so he knew the kids that were in trouble

791
00:30:18,669 --> 00:30:15,409
came from troubled homes and all kind of

792
00:30:20,620 --> 00:30:18,679
stuff so you know there was a big

793
00:30:21,940 --> 00:30:20,630
negotiation was facing a long time if

794
00:30:24,730 --> 00:30:21,950
the federal government would have

795
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:24,740
prosecuted him because it was the way

796
00:30:30,249 --> 00:30:27,529
they prosecute everyone else right I

797
00:30:32,110 --> 00:30:30,259
mean nothing exceptional right I got

798
00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:32,120
clients local clients right here sitting

799
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:33,860
in jail right now on much less charges

800
00:30:39,730 --> 00:30:38,690
you know stupid stuff you know but that

801
00:30:41,740 --> 00:30:39,740
would he call it the night so you know

802
00:30:43,029 --> 00:30:41,750
instead of they gave a deal you know and

803
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:43,039
you could see there were a lot of it's

804
00:30:45,610 --> 00:30:44,000
being published now that the

805
00:30:47,919 --> 00:30:45,620
negotiations back and forth they gave a

806
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:47,929
sweetheart deal and he got convicted to

807
00:30:54,460 --> 00:30:51,769
18 months but he only served 13 in a

808
00:30:55,659 --> 00:30:54,470
private wing of the sheriff so the count

809
00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:55,669
in the sheriff's jail not even the

810
00:31:01,299 --> 00:30:58,490
county jail or the state jail in a

811
00:31:03,999 --> 00:31:01,309
sheriff said wing where there were no

812
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:04,009
other inmates in there just him and he

813
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:05,600
was allowed to leave during the day and

814
00:31:09,940 --> 00:31:07,490
go to his office he hired off-duty

815
00:31:11,379 --> 00:31:09,950
sheriff's to transport him back and

816
00:31:13,330 --> 00:31:11,389
forth and company and stand in front his

817
00:31:17,289 --> 00:31:13,340
office so well that's just come out

818
00:31:19,269 --> 00:31:17,299
recently he had visitors every possible

819
00:31:21,610 --> 00:31:19,279
visiting day Jingu Bernal came down and

820
00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:21,620
visiting and that the perverted a

821
00:31:26,619 --> 00:31:23,929
modeling scout came down to visit him

822
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:26,629
every day so yeah so he should have

823
00:31:30,190 --> 00:31:28,850
gotten 40 years easily you know with

824
00:31:32,139 --> 00:31:30,200
that many victims with that much

825
00:31:34,659 --> 00:31:32,149
evidence against them but not only did

826
00:31:36,369 --> 00:31:34,669
he get to down to 13 months but everyone

827
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:36,379
involved with him all his code of

828
00:31:42,820 --> 00:31:39,710
co-conspirators we got immunity so

829
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:42,830
hopefully now Edwards in this suit

830
00:31:48,460 --> 00:31:45,710
against the US government can get that

831
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:48,470
deal thrown out because it does violate

832
00:31:53,470 --> 00:31:50,960
the rights of the victims and it's an

833
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:53,480
uphill road you know and probably Epson

834
00:31:57,789 --> 00:31:56,450
will die before it ever happens but so

835
00:31:59,110 --> 00:31:57,799
that's whether the suit right now with

836
00:32:01,600 --> 00:31:59,120
Edwards he's trying to get that and

837
00:32:04,419 --> 00:32:01,610
that's the big suit where Brad Edwards

838
00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:04,429
former federal judge attorney frigid for

839
00:32:06,970 --> 00:32:06,049
Virginia Roberts is so in the federal

840
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:06,980
government trying to get that deal

841
00:32:11,490 --> 00:32:08,570
overturned and get damages for his

842
00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:11,500
clients now in the course of all this

843
00:32:14,889 --> 00:32:12,830
Dershowitz

844
00:32:16,180 --> 00:32:14,899
files a lawsuit a defamation lawsuit

845
00:32:17,499 --> 00:32:16,190
against great

846
00:32:18,610 --> 00:32:17,509
this is what just happened everybody's

847
00:32:20,139 --> 00:32:18,620
reading about in the paper with this

848
00:32:21,879 --> 00:32:20,149
settlement that just came out to where

849
00:32:24,490 --> 00:32:21,889
the poor victims will never get their

850
00:32:26,049 --> 00:32:24,500
story up because Jeffrey Epstein settled

851
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:26,059
with the plaintiffs and it doesn't even

852
00:32:30,190 --> 00:32:28,250
describe correctly that Epstein was a

853
00:32:32,169 --> 00:32:30,200
defendant in this case and that ad Brad

854
00:32:35,230 --> 00:32:32,179
Edwards was the plaintiff but whatever

855
00:32:37,060 --> 00:32:35,240
so and I said oh my god this is a

856
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:37,070
horrible blow to the victims they won't

857
00:32:40,539 --> 00:32:38,450
be able to testify and get their stories

858
00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:40,549
out well no the original lawsuit is

859
00:32:44,350 --> 00:32:42,529
still there the one with the lawsuit for

860
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:44,360
the victims is still there a hundred

861
00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:47,929
percent and gang busters how this other

862
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:50,720
lawsuit came about okay that everybody's

863
00:32:55,389 --> 00:32:52,570
trying to paint as a defeat is

864
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:55,399
Dershowitz sued Brad Edwards for

865
00:32:59,200 --> 00:32:57,049
defamation Edwards

866
00:33:01,139 --> 00:32:59,210
turn around sued Dershowitz back and

867
00:33:04,889 --> 00:33:01,149
sued Epstein for defamation

868
00:33:07,149 --> 00:33:04,899
Dershowitz dropped his suit okay and

869
00:33:08,980 --> 00:33:07,159
Edwards dropped his suit against Hirsch

870
00:33:10,950 --> 00:33:08,990
which they they found them to press

871
00:33:13,749 --> 00:33:10,960
releases on a Friday night or an e p.m.

872
00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:13,759
where dish was tried to come off Josh

873
00:33:17,259 --> 00:33:15,529
was actually apologized in his press

874
00:33:23,860 --> 00:33:17,269
release but tried to come off like he

875
00:33:27,220 --> 00:33:23,870
won but Edwards is cool Miles Davis okay

876
00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:27,230
and in his response but now what we have

877
00:33:31,570 --> 00:33:29,929
here is Epstein lost this he lost this

878
00:33:33,700 --> 00:33:31,580
settlement he had to apologize and he

879
00:33:35,049 --> 00:33:33,710
had come up with more money which is the

880
00:33:37,539 --> 00:33:35,059
goal in all this stuff people want to

881
00:33:39,730 --> 00:33:37,549
get paid you know so he anybody hit him

882
00:33:41,799 --> 00:33:39,740
in a pocket there and he got hit there

883
00:33:43,810 --> 00:33:41,809
and he had apologized as well to but the

884
00:33:45,369 --> 00:33:43,820
original lawsuit still stands and

885
00:33:48,399 --> 00:33:45,379
nothing's changed with that all this

886
00:33:50,590 --> 00:33:48,409
stuff was an ad on that our side won and

887
00:33:52,210 --> 00:33:50,600
I guess the one of the big picture

888
00:33:55,060 --> 00:33:52,220
takeaways that we have to stay focused

889
00:33:58,749 --> 00:33:55,070
on is that when you hear Epstein

890
00:34:00,820 --> 00:33:58,759
think Trump yeah because there there's

891
00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:00,830
no difference in terms of what these

892
00:34:06,820 --> 00:34:03,710
guys are up to so back to you know I

893
00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:06,830
return to one of the factoids that you

894
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:08,889
brought out that just stuck with me is

895
00:34:15,339 --> 00:34:12,770
80% of the visas are going at least 12

896
00:34:15,970 --> 00:34:15,349
and 13 year old girls from Eastern

897
00:34:19,149 --> 00:34:15,980
Europe

898
00:34:22,329 --> 00:34:19,159
that's what Trump's about clearly man

899
00:34:24,940 --> 00:34:22,339
that's just that just fits hand in glove

900
00:34:25,839 --> 00:34:24,950
with all this crazy sex trafficking

901
00:34:28,659 --> 00:34:25,849
stuff

902
00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:28,669
Clinton sex trafficking epstein sex

903
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:29,929
trafficking this

904
00:34:35,859 --> 00:34:33,169
and a cesspool of activity that that

905
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:35,869
then ties into you know political

906
00:34:39,879 --> 00:34:38,240
blackmail right of all these different

907
00:34:42,250 --> 00:34:39,889
varieties that we can't even wrap our

908
00:34:45,129 --> 00:34:42,260
heads around but that's why as you point

909
00:34:47,740 --> 00:34:45,139
out it's it's crazy to think that

910
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:47,750
there's really gonna be any movement on

911
00:34:55,149 --> 00:34:52,000
this in terms of prosecution or any

912
00:34:57,940 --> 00:34:55,159
draining of the swamp if you will is

913
00:35:00,190 --> 00:34:57,950
because these guys are in like an old

914
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:00,200
cowboy western reference drawn on

915
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:02,690
everyone drawing the gun and pointed it

916
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:04,400
at everyone else I call blackmail you

917
00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:06,050
for this while black you mail you for

918
00:35:11,290 --> 00:35:08,720
this so it's just another layer of the

919
00:35:15,069 --> 00:35:11,300
to think that any of this stuff

920
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:15,079
is gonna change yeah and don't forget to

921
00:35:19,540 --> 00:35:17,210
you know this is Trump's lifestyle look

922
00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:19,550
at the stormy Daniels and character all

923
00:35:24,190 --> 00:35:21,710
that kind of stuff too as well this is

924
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:24,200
his lifestyle prostitutes and porn and

925
00:35:29,940 --> 00:35:28,130
all this kind of stuff now also to Bill

926
00:35:32,170 --> 00:35:29,950
Clinton to don't done we're not

927
00:35:33,849 --> 00:35:32,180
diminishing Bill Clinton's involvement

928
00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:33,859
in this cuz he's up to his neck and all

929
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:35,510
this as well but so are people like

930
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:37,730
Katie Couric and George Stephanopoulos

931
00:35:42,099 --> 00:35:40,130
and Woody Allen who's often seen with

932
00:35:43,569 --> 00:35:42,109
Epstein at Chris Tucker who flew on

933
00:35:45,339 --> 00:35:43,579
Epstein's playing when Bill Clinton is

934
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:45,349
on there and Chris Tucker has his

935
00:35:50,140 --> 00:35:46,640
connections that are Michael Jackson

936
00:35:52,180 --> 00:35:50,150
garand the Gavin RV no case okay when

937
00:35:56,430 --> 00:35:52,190
the Martin Bashir documentary came out

938
00:35:58,780 --> 00:35:56,440
and Gavin RV know was portrayed as

939
00:36:00,309 --> 00:35:58,790
sleeping in Michael Jackson's bed and

940
00:36:02,380 --> 00:36:00,319
the paparazzi swooped down on him

941
00:36:04,180 --> 00:36:02,390
Michael Jackson called a Chris Tucker

942
00:36:06,609 --> 00:36:04,190
who has his own private plane as well

943
00:36:08,620 --> 00:36:06,619
and said hey Chris go pick him up and

944
00:36:10,270 --> 00:36:08,630
bring him to me and Chris said okay I'll

945
00:36:12,730 --> 00:36:10,280
go get him Mike he's got nothing better

946
00:36:14,849 --> 00:36:12,740
to do with his plane okay Kevin Spacey

947
00:36:19,630 --> 00:36:14,859
was on that plane

948
00:36:21,849 --> 00:36:19,640
who was the other one i Courtney Love

949
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:21,859
you know I talked to her father all the

950
00:36:25,089 --> 00:36:23,930
time she has her own childhood

951
00:36:27,130 --> 00:36:25,099
involvement with these kind of

952
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:27,140
activities and escort services and

953
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:30,170
Madam's and dominatrix and stuff so you

954
00:36:34,450 --> 00:36:32,089
know it's not it's not a small group you

955
00:36:36,609 --> 00:36:34,460
know if you look at the list of people

956
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:36,619
that flew on Epstein's plane you got

957
00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:39,410
people Prime Minister of Israel you know

958
00:36:42,740 --> 00:36:41,510
that the President of Colombia you know

959
00:36:46,910 --> 00:36:42,750
this is no

960
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:46,920
and isolated Bunch there's a rich and

961
00:36:51,830 --> 00:36:49,770
powerful so what I want to try and do

962
00:36:54,890 --> 00:36:51,840
now is is pull back a little bit and

963
00:36:57,710 --> 00:36:54,900
kind of re reorient ourselves in a

964
00:37:01,370 --> 00:36:57,720
couple of different ways from to this I

965
00:37:03,470 --> 00:37:01,380
eventually want to get to something you

966
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:03,480
mentioned very early on in terms of the

967
00:37:08,930 --> 00:37:07,130
the spirituality your spirituality my

968
00:37:11,060 --> 00:37:08,940
spirituality you know one of the

969
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:11,070
frustrations I have with I don't know if

970
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:12,450
you can call this conspiracy work

971
00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:14,370
because it's not conspiracy work folks

972
00:37:19,790 --> 00:37:17,160
it's just reality work it's it's the way

973
00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:19,800
things really are as close as we can

974
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:22,950
figure it out but I guess my point is if

975
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:25,200
that eventually doesn't lead back to

976
00:37:33,350 --> 00:37:30,090
some kind of adjustment in our spiritual

977
00:37:36,770 --> 00:37:33,360
outlook ie how do I live my life in a

978
00:37:39,350 --> 00:37:36,780
meaningful way how do I figure out what

979
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:39,360
I'm supposed to do at anytime then all

980
00:37:43,820 --> 00:37:41,970
this is just it's just another

981
00:37:45,350 --> 00:37:43,830
form of entertainment and I don't think

982
00:37:46,940 --> 00:37:45,360
it is supposed to be another form of

983
00:37:49,070 --> 00:37:46,950
entertainment I think we're supposed to

984
00:37:51,650 --> 00:37:49,080
take the kind of information that you're

985
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:51,660
sharing the kind of investigations

986
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:53,310
you're doing and I think we're supposed

987
00:37:59,180 --> 00:37:55,710
to do something with it so I want to get

988
00:38:00,830 --> 00:37:59,190
there eventually but in the meantime I

989
00:38:04,910 --> 00:38:00,840
want to get back and talk about this

990
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:04,920
issue of beliefs how we form our beliefs

991
00:38:08,450 --> 00:38:07,110
how we get stuck on our beliefs and I

992
00:38:11,810 --> 00:38:08,460
want to put myself in the middle of that

993
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:11,820
and tell you kind of how I got sucked

994
00:38:17,930 --> 00:38:15,450
into the Trump thing so that we can kind

995
00:38:21,710 --> 00:38:17,940
of dissect it and look at it in a

996
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:21,720
broader sense because this show skeptic

997
00:38:27,860 --> 00:38:25,380
oh I really started it with an interest

998
00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:27,870
in big-picture kind of stuff who are we

999
00:38:32,830 --> 00:38:28,800
why are we here

1000
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:32,840
I started then by looking at science

1001
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:35,310
parapsychology because they seem to be

1002
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:37,710
on the cutting edge of that you know who

1003
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:39,810
are we question you know are we are we

1004
00:38:43,490 --> 00:38:42,210
just as science says biological robots

1005
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:43,500
in a meaningless universe you know

1006
00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:46,170
atheistic science materialistic science

1007
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:48,240
that's what it tells us you know your

1008
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:50,910
daughters in school I got four kids one

1009
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:52,800
two of them are almost the same age as

1010
00:38:55,130 --> 00:38:53,760
your daughter

1011
00:38:56,210 --> 00:38:55,140
same thing they've gone through all

1012
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:56,220
school

1013
00:38:59,540 --> 00:38:57,450
their whole life and that's what they

1014
00:39:03,050 --> 00:38:59,550
learn you know you are a biological

1015
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:03,060
robot there's no real love it's just

1016
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:04,770
this chemical reaction in your brain

1017
00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:07,440
kind of and so that's where I

1018
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:11,310
started and then that led me to kind of

1019
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:14,640
the more edgy spiritual stuff like the

1020
00:39:18,890 --> 00:39:17,040
near-death experience stuff which gets

1021
00:39:21,940 --> 00:39:18,900
right at that question of you know why

1022
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:21,950
are we here when you do encounter a

1023
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:24,570
spiritually transformative experience

1024
00:39:29,150 --> 00:39:26,310
what is that experience about what are

1025
00:39:31,220 --> 00:39:29,160
we learning from those that's what

1026
00:39:34,490 --> 00:39:31,230
really led me to the conspiracy stuff

1027
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:34,500
because what I found is that science and

1028
00:39:40,490 --> 00:39:37,770
that scientific materialism that insists

1029
00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:40,500
that you are just this biological robot

1030
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:44,730
is a huge conspiracy as is the whole

1031
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:47,910
atheist social engineering agenda it's

1032
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:51,119
truly is a conspiracy what I want to

1033
00:39:58,010 --> 00:39:55,050
talk about I guess is the lonely path of

1034
00:40:01,370 --> 00:39:58,020
the person who starts discovering these

1035
00:40:01,790 --> 00:40:01,380
conspiracies and here's what happened to

1036
00:40:06,740 --> 00:40:01,800
me

1037
00:40:10,070 --> 00:40:06,750
on election night 2016 so first of all

1038
00:40:12,829 --> 00:40:10,080
I'm not paying any attention to the

1039
00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:12,839
election cuz I've investigated enough

1040
00:40:18,589 --> 00:40:16,260
conspiracy to just resolve myself to the

1041
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:18,599
fact that it's all it's just

1042
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:22,410
it's just complete and utter so

1043
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:25,410
I thought there was absolutely no way

1044
00:40:30,050 --> 00:40:28,410
that Clinton would not prevail you know

1045
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:30,060
it's just like that fixes in she's gonna

1046
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:33,810
get it and my wife was you know I my

1047
00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:36,330
wife is awesome I love my wife but she

1048
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:39,060
totally buys she's an NPR kind of person

1049
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:41,609
you know it's like so she's totally

1050
00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:43,650
Clinton you know totally Clinton

1051
00:40:49,099 --> 00:40:45,990
something like hey I'm gonna keep peace

1052
00:40:52,370 --> 00:40:49,109
in the family vote for Clinton sure

1053
00:40:54,020 --> 00:40:52,380
honey I'm voting for Hillary won I live

1054
00:40:57,410 --> 00:40:54,030
in California so my vote doesn't matter

1055
00:41:00,349 --> 00:40:57,420
it's gonna go Democrat anyway so I vote

1056
00:41:02,780 --> 00:41:00,359
for Clinton and I just am in my in my

1057
00:41:05,540 --> 00:41:02,790
computer room working on my stuff my

1058
00:41:07,940 --> 00:41:05,550
skeptical stuff an election night my

1059
00:41:09,810 --> 00:41:07,950
wife comes in and she goes you got a

1060
00:41:12,210 --> 00:41:09,820
look at this you're not gonna believe it

1061
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:12,220
now literally this is how out of the

1062
00:41:16,770 --> 00:41:14,560
political loop I am I'm not even

1063
00:41:20,490 --> 00:41:16,780
watching any of the coverage and she

1064
00:41:23,910 --> 00:41:20,500
says come in and look at this and Donald

1065
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:23,920
Trump wins and for a moment I guess I'm

1066
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:26,170
like oh my god

1067
00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:29,710
it is possible it is possible because

1068
00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:34,260
for a minute Edie suspend if you can

1069
00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:36,790
everything you know about Donald Trump

1070
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:39,310
because I didn't know those things so

1071
00:41:45,270 --> 00:41:41,680
suspend that for a minute and look at

1072
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:45,280
Donald Trump as I did which at a very

1073
00:41:50,460 --> 00:41:47,530
high level that he clearly is an

1074
00:41:50,820 --> 00:41:50,470
outsider because the Republicans hate

1075
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:50,830
him

1076
00:41:55,530 --> 00:41:53,170
you got conservatives like George Will

1077
00:41:58,170 --> 00:41:55,540
writing articles that say hey even if

1078
00:42:02,820 --> 00:41:58,180
this guy gets all the electoral votes

1079
00:42:05,250 --> 00:42:02,830
let's not let's go against the the whole

1080
00:42:07,770 --> 00:42:05,260
electoral process and not nominate this

1081
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:07,780
guy as our candidate and George will

1082
00:42:12,420 --> 00:42:10,690
isn't citing Lolita Express and Mara

1083
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:12,430
Largo is one of the reasons he's doing

1084
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,000
it he's saying that because purely

1085
00:42:20,970 --> 00:42:18,640
political things so I look at this guy

1086
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:20,980
and say this guy is clearly an outsider

1087
00:42:27,660 --> 00:42:24,730
this guy is tapped into something in the

1088
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:27,670
American people and hey wouldn't it be

1089
00:42:34,980 --> 00:42:31,330
awesome if it really was possible for

1090
00:42:36,450 --> 00:42:34,990
the people to vote somebody in and

1091
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:36,460
that's what I saw

1092
00:42:44,190 --> 00:42:40,030
in Donald Trump I saw that just crazy

1093
00:42:46,940 --> 00:42:44,200
insane CNN NPR media which is just

1094
00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:46,950
incredibly Fox all of them just

1095
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:50,590
incredibly biased I mean it's just it's

1096
00:42:55,050 --> 00:42:52,570
beyond what we can even imagine and

1097
00:42:58,140 --> 00:42:55,060
that's what I saw and that's what I held

1098
00:42:59,760 --> 00:42:58,150
on to and obviously I held on to it too

1099
00:43:01,340 --> 00:42:59,770
long because that's the other thing I

1100
00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:01,350
think that happens with these beliefs is

1101
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:05,470
we want to see something and we see it

1102
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:06,970
and we want to believe because we're

1103
00:43:12,780 --> 00:43:10,690
we're weary of all the that like

1104
00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:12,790
you just laid out and how that can be

1105
00:43:17,820 --> 00:43:15,190
weighing on your soul of how hard that

1106
00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:17,830
is and that's what I think I saw in

1107
00:43:23,490 --> 00:43:21,310
Trump and that's why when I heard the

1108
00:43:27,330 --> 00:43:23,500
rumors of what was going on

1109
00:43:30,420 --> 00:43:27,340
I fail to thoroughly investigate it

1110
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:30,430
because I've wanted to believe that it

1111
00:43:37,589 --> 00:43:33,599
was true that there was a chance for

1112
00:43:39,060 --> 00:43:37,599
people to outside of the system I don't

1113
00:43:40,589 --> 00:43:39,070
really care if it's left or right but

1114
00:43:43,530 --> 00:43:40,599
just that the people could actually

1115
00:43:45,870 --> 00:43:43,540
exercise some power in this process

1116
00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:45,880
because I see for the most part their

1117
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:47,710
power is being completely drained from

1118
00:43:56,339 --> 00:43:51,760
the process so that's my catharsis

1119
00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:56,349
that's my story and just any thoughts on

1120
00:44:00,690 --> 00:43:58,810
that or any place we can pick up on that

1121
00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:00,700
and talk about that is how it relates to

1122
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:03,430
what you've seen and and with other

1123
00:44:11,339 --> 00:44:06,240
people and how your work affects people

1124
00:44:13,290 --> 00:44:11,349
yeah first of all and I could never

1125
00:44:15,690 --> 00:44:13,300
support the Clintons as bad as Trump is

1126
00:44:18,030 --> 00:44:15,700
as evil as he is I could never support

1127
00:44:20,130 --> 00:44:18,040
the Clintons because they're just as

1128
00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:20,140
evil you know and and you know my god I

1129
00:44:23,339 --> 00:44:21,849
mean you look at the stealing money from

1130
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:23,349
earthquake victims you know people are

1131
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:24,910
buried under rocks and that's where they

1132
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:26,710
go to steal money from you talk about

1133
00:44:31,710 --> 00:44:28,810
Haiti now right yeah in Haiti yeah yeah

1134
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:31,720
you know oh my god yeah and we can get

1135
00:44:35,579 --> 00:44:33,250
as all the details on that you know the

1136
00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:35,589
Clinton the Haiti relief fund is called

1137
00:44:41,910 --> 00:44:39,790
the HRC Rodham Clinton had commissioned

1138
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:41,920
that it's calling Human Rights quotient

1139
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:43,690
whatever's of human relief but you know

1140
00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:44,890
it's the same initials as Hillary Rodham

1141
00:44:47,849 --> 00:44:46,420
Clinton and that everything goes through

1142
00:44:49,380 --> 00:44:47,859
the Clinton Foundation down there they

1143
00:44:51,180 --> 00:44:49,390
they stole that Haiti is no doubt about

1144
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:51,190
that but also to by the way there's many

1145
00:44:56,660 --> 00:44:52,960
Republicans involved in that stealing

1146
00:44:58,410 --> 00:44:56,670
too even Obama was involved in the whole

1147
00:45:02,040 --> 00:44:58,420
Clinton theft when he was still a

1148
00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:02,050
senator so was Bush so was a Wesley

1149
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:03,369
Clark they were all on the board of

1150
00:45:06,510 --> 00:45:04,510
directors for those companies was still

1151
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:06,520
running them up but anyway I could the

1152
00:45:10,740 --> 00:45:08,890
Clinton versus Trump I couldn't support

1153
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:10,750
the Clintons my god the most evil people

1154
00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:11,680
on the planet plus they would have

1155
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:13,750
another 30 year reign in this country we

1156
00:45:16,770 --> 00:45:14,530
can't allow that

1157
00:45:18,180 --> 00:45:16,780
so as evil as Trump was man I kind of

1158
00:45:19,410 --> 00:45:18,190
threw my support behind Trump although I

1159
00:45:21,450 --> 00:45:19,420
didn't vote either because there's no

1160
00:45:23,690 --> 00:45:21,460
doesn't matter you know cuz Nevada would

1161
00:45:26,660 --> 00:45:23,700
behind Clint 90%

1162
00:45:28,099 --> 00:45:26,670
now I believe - I know a lot of people

1163
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:28,109
say well they're selected they're not

1164
00:45:31,250 --> 00:45:29,760
elected you know and we have no our vote

1165
00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:31,260
doesn't count I don't believe I used to

1166
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:33,540
think that I don't believe that at all

1167
00:45:38,270 --> 00:45:36,210
especially after my involvement recently

1168
00:45:40,190 --> 00:45:38,280
I like I actually I'm connected with

1169
00:45:42,050 --> 00:45:40,200
people at a level right now where I

1170
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:42,060
actually got a copy of the Democratic

1171
00:45:46,430 --> 00:45:44,250
platform before it was published

1172
00:45:48,890 --> 00:45:46,440
I got it in advance so and I had people

1173
00:45:50,930 --> 00:45:48,900
down there at the conventions and stuff

1174
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:50,940
you know people who I know very very

1175
00:45:56,569 --> 00:45:53,970
well so I believe it all votes to make a

1176
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:56,579
difference and we can organize locally

1177
00:46:01,849 --> 00:45:58,800
and get our own candidates in there I'm

1178
00:46:03,470 --> 00:46:01,859
convinced of all that you know you also

1179
00:46:05,690 --> 00:46:03,480
- you mentioned how George Will and

1180
00:46:07,310 --> 00:46:05,700
stuff like then how they weren't against

1181
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:07,320
Trump because of his connection with

1182
00:46:14,210 --> 00:46:10,890
Epstein interesting you know the girl

1183
00:46:15,650 --> 00:46:14,220
Katie Doe who filed the lawsuit against

1184
00:46:17,660 --> 00:46:15,660
Trump and Epstein the one that was raped

1185
00:46:20,780 --> 00:46:17,670
when she was a little kid by Trump and

1186
00:46:22,430 --> 00:46:20,790
Epstein she dropped out of that I was

1187
00:46:24,530 --> 00:46:22,440
like no the month of November was like

1188
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:24,540
four days before the election she was

1189
00:46:27,650 --> 00:46:26,160
gonna have a press conference Lisa bloom

1190
00:46:29,240 --> 00:46:27,660
had come in on her case and we're gonna

1191
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:29,250
do a press conference about all this and

1192
00:46:32,809 --> 00:46:31,050
they were hacked and they had a

1193
00:46:35,270 --> 00:46:32,819
denial-of-service attack on Lisa blooms

1194
00:46:37,550 --> 00:46:35,280
web strike and website and live stream

1195
00:46:39,890 --> 00:46:37,560
live stream was taken down by an

1196
00:46:42,620 --> 00:46:39,900
organized attack on there a live stream

1197
00:46:45,770 --> 00:46:42,630
service it's Tanabe state level you know

1198
00:46:49,910 --> 00:46:45,780
and so they she got panicked and quit

1199
00:46:52,190 --> 00:46:49,920
and that week Hannity was on the radio

1200
00:46:54,140 --> 00:46:52,200
and he had someone on like um

1201
00:46:55,970 --> 00:46:54,150
Lewandowski someone like Danny goes yeah

1202
00:46:57,980 --> 00:46:55,980
you know we dodged a bullet this week

1203
00:47:02,329 --> 00:46:57,990
and I guess is what do you mean it was

1204
00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:02,339
Epstein you know so you know it's not

1205
00:47:08,030 --> 00:47:04,440
like George will and he's people and and

1206
00:47:11,450 --> 00:47:08,040
I Joe Morning Joe and mica weren't aware

1207
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:11,460
of all this everybody was they just saw

1208
00:47:15,859 --> 00:47:13,410
a Fitz overlooking until it was a you

1209
00:47:17,650 --> 00:47:15,869
know they can get some use out of it now

1210
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:17,660
also to buy Trump being an outsider

1211
00:47:22,579 --> 00:47:19,770
Trump's lifelong friends with guys like

1212
00:47:24,890 --> 00:47:22,589
khashoggi odd not Khashoggi involved in

1213
00:47:27,050 --> 00:47:24,900
iran-contra and drug smuggling in and

1214
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:27,060
you just to be clear though I'm not

1215
00:47:33,559 --> 00:47:29,970
saying he's a genuine outsider I'm

1216
00:47:35,660 --> 00:47:33,569
saying the optics of the thing were that

1217
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:35,670
and and I feel like this is kind of

1218
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:37,050
something important that I want to get

1219
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:37,740
into with

1220
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:42,570
you is that because you are so well

1221
00:47:50,450 --> 00:47:47,250
informed that in some ways it's hard for

1222
00:47:53,450 --> 00:47:50,460
us even to connect because you know so

1223
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:53,460
much and I'm on the outside but but I'd

1224
00:47:58,100 --> 00:47:56,250
want to remind you of how a lot of

1225
00:48:01,490 --> 00:47:58,110
people looked at this thing and I think

1226
00:48:05,180 --> 00:48:01,500
that to deny that Trump resonated with a

1227
00:48:07,790 --> 00:48:05,190
lot of people who are just real people

1228
00:48:10,820 --> 00:48:07,800
at people that I can relate to who

1229
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:10,830
aren't racist who aren't sexist who

1230
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:13,200
aren't but just really believe that you

1231
00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:15,690
know what this is

1232
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:18,510
you know I don't I'd see the transgender

1233
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:21,810
bathrooms at a San Diego Airport where I

1234
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:24,410
live and I don't have anything against

1235
00:48:30,609 --> 00:48:27,450
transgender people but I see that third

1236
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:30,619
bathroom door and I say this is progress

1237
00:48:36,020 --> 00:48:33,570
this is where we want to go this is or I

1238
00:48:38,810 --> 00:48:36,030
live you know 30 miles from from the

1239
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:38,820
border Tijuana and I hate when people

1240
00:48:43,310 --> 00:48:40,800
say this but I know plenty of Mexican

1241
00:48:46,070 --> 00:48:43,320
people and I'm close to a number of

1242
00:48:47,690 --> 00:48:46,080
Mexican people they're no different than

1243
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:47,700
any other people you can't say through

1244
00:48:51,340 --> 00:48:49,170
this way that way but it's not like

1245
00:48:54,260 --> 00:48:51,350
anyone who lives in San Diego is not

1246
00:48:56,390 --> 00:48:54,270
doesn't understand it that's a total

1247
00:48:59,390 --> 00:48:56,400
scam I mean the immigration thing it's a

1248
00:49:02,180 --> 00:48:59,400
total scam so to deny that that there

1249
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:02,190
was some reality that that resonated

1250
00:49:08,660 --> 00:49:05,730
with people that people wanted something

1251
00:49:10,490 --> 00:49:08,670
different and what they saw in Trump was

1252
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:10,500
what they voted for and it was a

1253
00:49:16,070 --> 00:49:13,050
complete and run any Trump and Bernie

1254
00:49:18,050 --> 00:49:16,080
Sanders were really the two outsider

1255
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:18,060
candidates and it was just awesome

1256
00:49:21,470 --> 00:49:19,530
I mean Bernie Sanders the thing was

1257
00:49:24,980 --> 00:49:21,480
stolen from him but it was just awesome

1258
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:24,990
to see somebody prevail on the the

1259
00:49:30,650 --> 00:49:28,530
optics of being a true outsider truly

1260
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:30,660
outside the system and do you see it

1261
00:49:33,290 --> 00:49:31,410
that way

1262
00:49:35,090 --> 00:49:33,300
well interesting because in some ways

1263
00:49:36,830 --> 00:49:35,100
Trump definitely was an outsider and I

1264
00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:36,840
saw with my own eyes because when we

1265
00:49:40,340 --> 00:49:38,430
went to the first Trump rally here in

1266
00:49:42,590 --> 00:49:40,350
Nevada way way way early in the

1267
00:49:43,940 --> 00:49:42,600
beginning he had no campaign staff

1268
00:49:46,130 --> 00:49:43,950
whatsoever there was no campaign

1269
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:46,140
organization no political people at all

1270
00:49:50,540 --> 00:49:48,330
his the rally was run by New York City

1271
00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:50,550
cops off-duty New York City cops were in

1272
00:49:54,450 --> 00:49:51,510
that rally

1273
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:54,460
the whole thing and their whole focus

1274
00:49:58,170 --> 00:49:56,530
was on just frisking people as they came

1275
00:50:00,120 --> 00:49:58,180
in and pretty much you're on your own

1276
00:50:01,319 --> 00:50:00,130
you know and wasn't till later on he had

1277
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:01,329
some volunteers but even that was a

1278
00:50:06,359 --> 00:50:04,510
ragtag so you're writing he isn't in

1279
00:50:08,670 --> 00:50:06,369
that way he's not a part of the

1280
00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:08,680
political machines he's definitely not

1281
00:50:14,099 --> 00:50:10,720
but as far as being an outsider

1282
00:50:18,660 --> 00:50:14,109
I said Khashoggi and Erik Prince people

1283
00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:18,670
at Wilbur Ross Rand Rothschild Inc the

1284
00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:20,260
Commerce Secretary you know it's like

1285
00:50:23,579 --> 00:50:21,910
it's not I can I can see how much you

1286
00:50:33,420 --> 00:50:23,589
can call me an outsider he hooked up

1287
00:50:35,370 --> 00:50:33,430
with everybody he's all shriveled up and

1288
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:35,380
dying but I understand you so he

1289
00:50:39,809 --> 00:50:36,970
definitely wasn't an outsider as far as

1290
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:39,819
the political machines go you know and

1291
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:42,130
paid off both parties and blackmail both

1292
00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:44,290
parties I'm sure you know he comes right

1293
00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:45,849
out and says when he somewhat the pissed

1294
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:47,470
gate it comes right out and says hey all

1295
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:50,880
those hotels have cameras I know they do

1296
00:50:55,170 --> 00:50:53,680
and it's coming out so my cameras in

1297
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:55,180
hotels oh by the way - you're

1298
00:50:58,980 --> 00:50:57,280
interesting I told my trump and

1299
00:51:01,710 --> 00:50:58,990
blackmail you know the whole thing with

1300
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:01,720
his son-in-law Jared Kushner you know

1301
00:51:07,470 --> 00:51:05,440
his dad got busted because he was so

1302
00:51:09,390 --> 00:51:07,480
desperate to donate money to Democrats

1303
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:09,400
that he started creating these phony

1304
00:51:12,270 --> 00:51:11,170
partnerships and donating money are

1305
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:12,280
there other people's name without them

1306
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:13,839
realizing it and there was an

1307
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:15,490
investigation and his brother-in-law

1308
00:51:19,289 --> 00:51:18,130
turned against him so what he did was he

1309
00:51:21,420 --> 00:51:19,299
hired a prostitute

1310
00:51:24,030 --> 00:51:21,430
to benefit to go with the brother-in-law

1311
00:51:26,599 --> 00:51:24,040
and tried to blackmail so let's get this

1312
00:51:29,010 --> 00:51:26,609
straight for folks Jared Kushner

1313
00:51:31,410 --> 00:51:29,020
connected to the Trump family obviously

1314
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:31,420
but also connected to this presidency

1315
00:51:37,049 --> 00:51:34,569
deep inside of it blackmailed his

1316
00:51:38,819 --> 00:51:37,059
brother-in-law his sister's husband

1317
00:51:41,940 --> 00:51:38,829
blackmailed them with by hiring a

1318
00:51:43,710 --> 00:51:41,950
prostitute to go in come on to this guy

1319
00:51:45,780 --> 00:51:43,720
so he could tape it and then blackmail

1320
00:51:47,069 --> 00:51:45,790
him Yeah right just think of that was

1321
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:47,079
your son-in-law your daughter was gonna

1322
00:51:50,579 --> 00:51:48,609
marry that guy whose father did this

1323
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:50,589
blackmail deal like when you say hey you

1324
00:51:57,450 --> 00:51:55,599
know honey you know but interesting

1325
00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:57,460
though you know a black man with this

1326
00:52:01,220 --> 00:51:58,480
prostitute right

1327
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:01,230
I was talking to him what's his name

1328
00:52:05,900 --> 00:52:03,930
Roseanne Barr husband what's his name

1329
00:52:08,599 --> 00:52:05,910
Tom Arnold it's talking to Tom one with

1330
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:08,609
and I says hey man you know about this

1331
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:11,010
you know about that and you know we

1332
00:52:14,269 --> 00:52:12,960
finish our conversation and he do be

1333
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:14,279
talking about cushion and then he tweets

1334
00:52:20,180 --> 00:52:17,130
about Kushner and in the hashtag he put

1335
00:52:21,819 --> 00:52:20,190
Russian teens you know so I guess he

1336
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:21,829
knows something about the the Kushner

1337
00:52:26,059 --> 00:52:24,210
blackmail is being teenagers Russian

1338
00:52:27,650 --> 00:52:26,069
teenagers you know which is kind of

1339
00:52:28,910 --> 00:52:27,660
interesting because you also got

1340
00:52:31,870 --> 00:52:28,920
cambridge channel it was talking about

1341
00:52:35,089 --> 00:52:31,880
how they they blackmail these people

1342
00:52:39,289 --> 00:52:35,099
using the you know young girls and stuff

1343
00:52:40,849 --> 00:52:39,299
like that okay let me kind of speed this

1344
00:52:43,039 --> 00:52:40,859
up a little bit because there are some

1345
00:52:44,990 --> 00:52:43,049
things i want to hit on we could talk

1346
00:52:47,390 --> 00:52:45,000
for hours and hours and any one of these

1347
00:52:50,390 --> 00:52:47,400
but i want to get your take on globalism

1348
00:52:52,670 --> 00:52:50,400
and i understand that

1349
00:52:56,990 --> 00:52:52,680
based on everything you've just said we

1350
00:53:00,079 --> 00:52:57,000
cannot say that Trump is disassociated

1351
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:00,089
himself with globalism but I wonder do

1352
00:53:06,410 --> 00:53:03,440
you acknowledge that there is this

1353
00:53:09,829 --> 00:53:06,420
globalism versus nationalism divide

1354
00:53:11,930 --> 00:53:09,839
there's the climate change hoax the war

1355
00:53:15,740 --> 00:53:11,940
on terror hoax the immigration scream

1356
00:53:19,150 --> 00:53:15,750
all this stuff is is trying to move

1357
00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:19,160
people politically towards a certain

1358
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:22,529
position one planet don't worry so much

1359
00:53:26,269 --> 00:53:24,690
about being a United States citizen

1360
00:53:28,849 --> 00:53:26,279
don't worry so much about the

1361
00:53:31,339 --> 00:53:28,859
Constitution we need to all kind of join

1362
00:53:34,010 --> 00:53:31,349
together under this one planet EU

1363
00:53:35,930 --> 00:53:34,020
extension kind of thing do you buy into

1364
00:53:39,710 --> 00:53:35,940
the notion that there is such a thing

1365
00:53:42,829 --> 00:53:39,720
called globalism if there is globalism

1366
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:42,839
if there's a one world power controlling

1367
00:53:47,450 --> 00:53:45,210
everything or we're working toward that

1368
00:53:50,510 --> 00:53:47,460
it's the United States of America but

1369
00:53:52,609 --> 00:53:50,520
it's in charge of it let's let's leave

1370
00:53:54,740 --> 00:53:52,619
that let's leave that aside for a second

1371
00:53:56,740 --> 00:53:54,750
and just say I mean do you do you buy

1372
00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:56,750
into the idea that there is this

1373
00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:01,200
political movement that is I would to me

1374
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:02,910
it looks brother obvious but he's even

1375
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:05,520
larger than the politics the United

1376
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:08,609
States or that that is towards this

1377
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:11,010
one-world government kind of thing and

1378
00:54:15,559 --> 00:54:13,410
and ultimate control over people or just

1379
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:15,569
increased level of control I mean we're

1380
00:54:19,020 --> 00:54:17,770
going to get

1381
00:54:20,490 --> 00:54:19,030
there's definitely an increase if we

1382
00:54:23,100 --> 00:54:20,500
have much less freon how old II were I'm

1383
00:54:24,180 --> 00:54:23,110
56 years old I have much less personal

1384
00:54:26,460 --> 00:54:24,190
freedom than I did back in the 70s

1385
00:54:29,130 --> 00:54:26,470
there's no doubt about that my mind but

1386
00:54:31,170 --> 00:54:29,140
as far as global control but the United

1387
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:31,180
States of America is world domination we

1388
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:32,800
are the dominant power in the world we

1389
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:34,930
have more our military budget is higher

1390
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:36,970
than the next top eight countries at and

1391
00:54:41,460 --> 00:54:39,370
half of those are our allies we have air

1392
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:41,470
superiority over the entire planet

1393
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:44,110
nobody denies that the more aircraft and

1394
00:54:49,110 --> 00:54:47,040
fighters in anywhere Russia that has one

1395
00:54:51,540 --> 00:54:49,120
aircraft carrier that they have to pull

1396
00:54:53,130 --> 00:54:51,550
around on a tugboat it's a diesel we

1397
00:54:55,590 --> 00:54:53,140
have to pull it with a tugboat has no

1398
00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:55,600
engines no working engines on it oh I

1399
00:54:59,160 --> 00:54:57,250
totally get that I mean I've been to

1400
00:55:00,780 --> 00:54:59,170
Russia a half-dozen times and when that

1401
00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:00,790
first thing started coming out about

1402
00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:03,670
Russia I go you you have no idea me just

1403
00:55:08,610 --> 00:55:05,950
go there I mean it's just a complete

1404
00:55:11,220 --> 00:55:08,620
farce to think that this is some power

1405
00:55:13,620 --> 00:55:11,230
on par with us but again let me bring it

1406
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:13,630
down to an issue climate change hoax I

1407
00:55:18,210 --> 00:55:15,280
mean the science behind climate change

1408
00:55:21,570 --> 00:55:18,220
it's it's it's not real it's

1409
00:55:24,750 --> 00:55:21,580
just a scheme to create this currency

1410
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:24,760
called carbons that they can then trade

1411
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:26,410
and control and create an Internet of

1412
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:28,210
Things where they can monitor and

1413
00:55:32,130 --> 00:55:30,850
control people that's the play here it

1414
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:32,140
doesn't have anything I'm an

1415
00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:34,930
environmentalist I mean we I'm deeply

1416
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:36,310
concerned with what we're doing to the

1417
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:38,110
environment and that the planet may not

1418
00:55:41,970 --> 00:55:40,240
you know survived aren't enough fish

1419
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:41,980
they're kind of there's all these other

1420
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:44,710
things but the climate change Paris

1421
00:55:49,590 --> 00:55:47,530
thing I mean this is an obvious scam do

1422
00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:49,600
you see it that way I haven't looked

1423
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:51,400
into it today I'd agree I can look out

1424
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:53,170
you know I can look on turn on the TV

1425
00:55:55,830 --> 00:55:54,640
and see that the storms and the

1426
00:55:57,810 --> 00:55:55,840
earthquakes that stuff we have now are

1427
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:57,820
greater than ever before you know I

1428
00:56:02,460 --> 00:55:59,680
lived in Staten Island and we had

1429
00:56:03,030 --> 00:56:02,470
hurricane sandy destroyed Jim people

1430
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:03,040
died

1431
00:56:07,950 --> 00:56:04,960
you know kids were swept away in rushing

1432
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:07,960
waters okay at you and I if you're up

1433
00:56:13,830 --> 00:56:11,890
for it I gotta I got plans for you buddy

1434
00:56:15,810 --> 00:56:13,840
we might we might if I can talk you into

1435
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:15,820
it we might find a way to investigate

1436
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:17,920
some of these things I think it was come

1437
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:19,570
to the same conclusions you'll find all

1438
00:56:25,950 --> 00:56:24,400
the same trails of shenanigans that you

1439
00:56:29,850 --> 00:56:25,960
do and all the other things phony

1440
00:56:31,579 --> 00:56:29,860
reports faked data all with a political

1441
00:56:35,359 --> 00:56:31,589
agenda so I'm going to put

1442
00:56:36,469 --> 00:56:35,369
on hold for a minute and-and-and cuz I

1443
00:56:38,299 --> 00:56:36,479
want to move on to so many other things

1444
00:56:40,429 --> 00:56:38,309
one other thing I wanted to talk about

1445
00:56:41,779 --> 00:56:40,439
real quick and forgive me if slowed me

1446
00:56:43,789 --> 00:56:41,789
down if I'm going too fast here but I'd

1447
00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:43,799
want to cover a lot of stuff Alex Jones

1448
00:56:47,209 --> 00:56:46,529
is fascinating to me fascinating

1449
00:56:49,670 --> 00:56:47,219
character

1450
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:49,680
I think you've exposed him in some

1451
00:56:55,819 --> 00:56:52,049
incredible ways they're just powerful

1452
00:56:59,989 --> 00:56:55,829
you're brilliant analysis of the James

1453
00:57:02,660 --> 00:56:59,999
elefantes apology I think is like a

1454
00:57:04,670 --> 00:57:02,670
level three kind of stuff but if people

1455
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:04,680
can get there if they can get through

1456
00:57:09,469 --> 00:57:07,410
all your your work that you did on Pizza

1457
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:09,479
Gate which is totally real you know I

1458
00:57:17,390 --> 00:57:14,089
interviewed FBI agent Bob hammer who

1459
00:57:19,489 --> 00:57:17,400
investigated that the NAMBLA thing and

1460
00:57:22,489 --> 00:57:19,499
he was really powerful and gave

1461
00:57:24,709 --> 00:57:22,499
testimony to how real in a related way

1462
00:57:26,839 --> 00:57:24,719
that is you've done a lot more work and

1463
00:57:29,709 --> 00:57:26,849
better work but I'm gonna return to Alex

1464
00:57:33,229 --> 00:57:29,719
Jones Ed bomb hammer ah yeah yeah yeah

1465
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:33,239
good guy such an FBI guy yeah I never

1466
00:57:36,769 --> 00:57:34,559
thought to ask me about pizza gate but I

1467
00:57:38,329 --> 00:57:36,779
think was before Pizza game excellent

1468
00:57:40,699 --> 00:57:38,339
excellent work in his life and

1469
00:57:42,620 --> 00:57:40,709
infiltrating NAMBLA yeah yeah too much

1470
00:57:46,339 --> 00:57:42,630
so here's my question about Alex Jones

1471
00:57:50,509 --> 00:57:46,349
do you think he was ever legitimate I

1472
00:57:53,479 --> 00:57:50,519
mean Bohemian Grove 9/11 or was he ever

1473
00:57:55,849 --> 00:57:53,489
for real in your opinion okay that's

1474
00:57:58,759 --> 00:57:55,859
interesting um Danny Romero from

1475
00:58:01,039 --> 00:57:58,769
American freedom radio he knew Alex

1476
00:58:02,870 --> 00:58:01,049
Jones way way back when from Austin you

1477
00:58:05,179 --> 00:58:02,880
know when they were there in Texas in

1478
00:58:07,099 --> 00:58:05,189
those days when Alex's beginning of his

1479
00:58:09,199 --> 00:58:07,109
career so I don't know man but but I

1480
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:09,209
think by the time and he never came

1481
00:58:12,709 --> 00:58:10,319
right out and said hey this guy's been a

1482
00:58:13,819 --> 00:58:12,719
show from the start you know bizarre

1483
00:58:15,319 --> 00:58:13,829
stories about him getting to fistfight

1484
00:58:19,219 --> 00:58:15,329
two people and run into the cops you and

1485
00:58:21,769 --> 00:58:19,229
weird things but definitely I don't

1486
00:58:23,380 --> 00:58:21,779
think he snuck into big Bohemian Grove

1487
00:58:26,839 --> 00:58:23,390
with our invitation I can't imagine

1488
00:58:28,699 --> 00:58:26,849
pulling that off just from what I know

1489
00:58:30,410 --> 00:58:28,709
about trying to sneak into places and

1490
00:58:32,059 --> 00:58:30,420
sneaking across borders and stuff like

1491
00:58:37,579 --> 00:58:32,069
that he said I don't think he could pull

1492
00:58:39,450 --> 00:58:37,589
that off and 9/11 one thing that always

1493
00:58:42,089 --> 00:58:39,460
sticks out in my head

1494
00:58:44,460 --> 00:58:42,099
as I watched him once Geraldo Rivera was

1495
00:58:47,370 --> 00:58:44,470
on doing a live segment in Times Square

1496
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:47,380
or something like that and suddenly Alex

1497
00:58:51,180 --> 00:58:49,690
Jones showed up with a group of 911

1498
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:51,190
truthers you know and he showed her and

1499
00:58:55,470 --> 00:58:53,770
I got right there to the to the rail you

1500
00:58:56,910 --> 00:58:55,480
know and it was all lit well and it was

1501
00:58:58,980 --> 00:58:56,920
Mike Doyle did the whole thing was a

1502
00:59:00,420 --> 00:58:58,990
setup is there's no debt I know the hell

1503
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:00,430
those things are you know I know but

1504
00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:02,170
live TV I know but this kind of stuff

1505
00:59:06,150 --> 00:59:03,910
and I know but street protesting there's

1506
00:59:11,010 --> 00:59:06,160
just no way he could have got there and

1507
00:59:12,660 --> 00:59:11,020
been latent and miked the way he was so

1508
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:12,670
that had to be some kind of setup I

1509
00:59:17,910 --> 00:59:15,130
don't know about that remember correctly

1510
00:59:20,370 --> 00:59:17,920
he was on a megaphone other people were

1511
00:59:25,530 --> 00:59:20,380
were around him they were not well lit

1512
00:59:28,109 --> 00:59:25,540
and my read of it was that Rivera was

1513
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:28,119
genuinely kind of pissed off and he kind

1514
00:59:33,180 --> 00:59:30,130
of said some things now it could be all

1515
00:59:36,089 --> 00:59:33,190
staged but I mean that that's this

1516
00:59:38,910 --> 00:59:36,099
brings up another issue of you know I

1517
00:59:41,490 --> 00:59:38,920
like the stuff that's clearly one way or

1518
00:59:43,470 --> 00:59:41,500
another so I hear you that we don't know

1519
00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:43,480
how to interpret that but to me that

1520
00:59:48,450 --> 00:59:46,809
doesn't fall you know clearly into one

1521
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:48,460
camp and I'd have to say the same thing

1522
00:59:54,299 --> 00:59:50,770
with Bohemian Grove I mean the flip side

1523
00:59:57,780 --> 00:59:54,309
of that is how does that add up that he

1524
01:00:00,599 --> 00:59:57,790
got an invite to expose that I mean in

1525
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:00,609
whose interest was that I mean it it

1526
01:00:05,910 --> 01:00:03,250
kind of gets a little bit too far down

1527
01:00:08,490 --> 01:00:05,920
the rabbit hole for me yeah you know it

1528
01:00:10,770 --> 01:00:08,500
wasn't sure this it's beyond explanation

1529
01:00:13,049 --> 01:00:10,780
like who knows why he was invited into

1530
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:13,059
this kind of thing but if he was some

1531
01:00:16,950 --> 01:00:15,010
kind of a truth or even back then or now

1532
01:00:19,039 --> 01:00:16,960
he wouldn't be making $400,000 a month

1533
01:00:23,220 --> 01:00:19,049
you know with his penis pills and stuff

1534
01:00:24,839 --> 01:00:23,230
and that's the other thing I think you

1535
01:00:26,339 --> 01:00:24,849
know what we can talk at point but I

1536
01:00:29,130 --> 01:00:26,349
don't want to get into politics but the

1537
01:00:30,750 --> 01:00:29,140
the leftist thing a lot of times people

1538
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:30,760
who are like that they have just

1539
01:00:36,569 --> 01:00:33,609
immediate distrust of anyone with money

1540
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:36,579
maybe I have a lot of money I made a lot

1541
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:39,040
of money in my life and I know a lot of

1542
01:00:43,589 --> 01:00:41,410
people that made a lot of money and the

1543
01:00:45,809 --> 01:00:43,599
values that the P of the people that I

1544
01:00:48,870 --> 01:00:45,819
know have made a lot of money are the

1545
01:00:51,329 --> 01:00:48,880
highest values for just living your life

1546
01:00:52,859 --> 01:00:51,339
you know that success its setting goals

1547
01:00:55,410 --> 01:00:52,869
its being

1548
01:00:58,499 --> 01:00:55,420
focused it's being you know controlling

1549
01:01:00,480 --> 01:00:58,509
your own mind and controlling your bad

1550
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:00,490
habits and stuff like that so I don't

1551
01:01:05,460 --> 01:01:02,650
have an immediate distrust for someone

1552
01:01:07,049 --> 01:01:05,470
Alex Jones has figured out a way to sell

1553
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:07,059
that stuff and I tell you one thing I

1554
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:08,410
don't want to be a big defender of Alex

1555
01:01:11,759 --> 01:01:09,730
Jones but the one thing that he says

1556
01:01:13,710 --> 01:01:11,769
that resonates with me is like hey I'm

1557
01:01:15,930 --> 01:01:13,720
selling the same that Whole Foods

1558
01:01:18,059 --> 01:01:15,940
is selling and I'm selling it for a

1559
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:18,069
lower price so you want to buy your

1560
01:01:22,620 --> 01:01:20,079
vitamins at Whole Foods buy him from me

1561
01:01:24,630 --> 01:01:22,630
and I think supplements are a good idea

1562
01:01:27,180 --> 01:01:24,640
I don't immediately discount the guy for

1563
01:01:28,799 --> 01:01:27,190
making millions of dollars a year so no

1564
01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:28,809
that's not what I'm saying at all and

1565
01:01:32,339 --> 01:01:30,160
I've made a lot of money in my life - I

1566
01:01:34,529 --> 01:01:32,349
had a nine club Manhattan it was a limo

1567
01:01:36,630 --> 01:01:34,539
driver 21st a I've had a lot of money

1568
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:36,640
here at Canyon Ranch who you know had a

1569
01:01:40,019 --> 01:01:38,650
lot of money but the thing is is what

1570
01:01:42,599 --> 01:01:40,029
I'm saying is and I'm not when these

1571
01:01:44,370 --> 01:01:42,609
people that says that you know I did

1572
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:44,380
socialism means you have to be poor or

1573
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:45,970
that you can't be rich under socialism

1574
01:01:48,329 --> 01:01:47,170
I believe that we would all be much

1575
01:01:51,450 --> 01:01:48,339
richer than we are right now under

1576
01:01:53,009 --> 01:01:51,460
socialism the point I'm trying to make

1577
01:01:55,559 --> 01:01:53,019
with saying that he couldn't get away

1578
01:01:57,779 --> 01:01:55,569
with making $400,000 a month if he was a

1579
01:01:58,620 --> 01:01:57,789
truther as I know that I've spoken out

1580
01:02:00,660 --> 01:01:58,630
on certain things

1581
01:02:03,930 --> 01:02:00,670
and I've had my credit card processing

1582
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:03,940
shut down the next day okay and things

1583
01:02:09,930 --> 01:02:06,730
like I know that on on AM radio you

1584
01:02:11,999 --> 01:02:09,940
can't get on AM radio unless your right

1585
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:12,009
wing you know they just they sabotage

1586
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:14,410
you at every length even these sponsors

1587
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:16,450
and the advertisers an AM radio will

1588
01:02:20,609 --> 01:02:18,880
sponsor will sabotage you if you're not

1589
01:02:23,870 --> 01:02:20,619
right-wing and towing that right-wing

1590
01:02:25,979 --> 01:02:23,880
line t-talk stream life you know who

1591
01:02:28,229 --> 01:02:25,989
supposedly run this kind of raining this

1592
01:02:30,749 --> 01:02:28,239
operation where they carry water for

1593
01:02:32,489 --> 01:02:30,759
what's-his-name a savage Michael Savage

1594
01:02:34,019 --> 01:02:32,499
every week Michael Savage has the high

1595
01:02:35,940 --> 01:02:34,029
screen and stuff like that I know for a

1596
01:02:38,339 --> 01:02:35,950
fact these guys sabotage if you're not

1597
01:02:39,779 --> 01:02:38,349
left if you're not right-wing then they

1598
01:02:44,549 --> 01:02:39,789
dismiss what they want right-wing people

1599
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:44,559
in on radio so when I say that if Alex

1600
01:02:48,359 --> 01:02:47,170
Jones was really exposing things they

1601
01:02:49,859 --> 01:02:48,369
would shut him down they weren't allowed

1602
01:02:51,930 --> 01:02:49,869
to make 400 awesome thousand dollars a

1603
01:02:53,220 --> 01:02:51,940
month not that I think making $400,000

1604
01:02:56,819 --> 01:02:53,230
is bad I would love to make fortune that

1605
01:03:00,059 --> 01:02:56,829
was awesome I looked it and these things

1606
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:00,069
I could do to do it to me don't forget

1607
01:03:07,270 --> 01:03:03,530
things I do anyway okay you know well

1608
01:03:09,700 --> 01:03:07,280
here let me challenge part of that again

1609
01:03:11,050 --> 01:03:09,710
and and I appreciate that we can do this

1610
01:03:13,060 --> 01:03:11,060
and we can have this discussion because

1611
01:03:15,490 --> 01:03:13,070
I do so respect your work and I want to

1612
01:03:18,820 --> 01:03:15,500
hear your opinion sure one thing that

1613
01:03:20,830 --> 01:03:18,830
does concern me is the censorship of

1614
01:03:23,620 --> 01:03:20,840
Alex Jones no matter what you think

1615
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:23,630
about Alex Jones to me is far and away

1616
01:03:29,620 --> 01:03:26,690
the biggest story that I've seen in the

1617
01:03:32,860 --> 01:03:29,630
in a number of years because you know

1618
01:03:35,410 --> 01:03:32,870
you talk about First Amendment which is

1619
01:03:36,940 --> 01:03:35,420
what we've all held on to as you know we

1620
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:36,950
do have freedom of speech in this

1621
01:03:42,910 --> 01:03:39,910
country we've all held onto this and now

1622
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:42,920
what happened to him with being shut

1623
01:03:48,790 --> 01:03:46,450
down the way he was simultaneously by

1624
01:03:50,980 --> 01:03:48,800
YouTube a lot of people say YouTube need

1625
01:03:52,630 --> 01:03:50,990
to get shut down a YouTube he

1626
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:52,640
got shut down with YouTube who's owned

1627
01:03:57,190 --> 01:03:54,770
by Google and Google is the

1628
01:03:59,530 --> 01:03:57,200
Internet so he got shut down by that by

1629
01:04:02,260 --> 01:03:59,540
that and he/she got shut down by Apple

1630
01:04:04,900 --> 01:04:02,270
chai calm Apple and he got shut down by

1631
01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:04,910
Facebook and Twitter all the same day I

1632
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:08,240
mean five years ago we would have all

1633
01:04:13,510 --> 01:04:10,370
said that's impossible or if that

1634
01:04:17,020 --> 01:04:13,520
happened we'll all go march on you know

1635
01:04:18,580 --> 01:04:17,030
Washington DC and instead what we all do

1636
01:04:20,890 --> 01:04:18,590
is sit around and talk about how not to

1637
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:20,900
get demonetised on YouTube like that's

1638
01:04:26,350 --> 01:04:23,810
the the answer no I hear you

1639
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:26,360
yeah it's definitely the suppression of

1640
01:04:30,430 --> 01:04:28,250
free speech you know but I wish shutdown

1641
01:04:32,170 --> 01:04:30,440
on YouTube three years ago you know but

1642
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:32,180
I know I'm near the impact that the Alex

1643
01:04:37,090 --> 01:04:34,010
Jones has and even now it might have my

1644
01:04:38,380 --> 01:04:37,100
YouTube's on my but isn't isn't that the

1645
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:38,390
point I mean that's the point that I'm

1646
01:04:43,450 --> 01:04:41,210
making is that hey of course the small

1647
01:04:45,790 --> 01:04:43,460
people get shut down and no one pays any

1648
01:04:47,710 --> 01:04:45,800
attention to it you know I heard Luke

1649
01:04:49,930 --> 01:04:47,720
Radomski from we are change has been

1650
01:04:52,750 --> 01:04:49,940
kind of a buddy of the show and years

1651
01:04:54,010 --> 01:04:52,760
ago years ago he was the first one I

1652
01:04:56,650 --> 01:04:54,020
ever heard to talk about being

1653
01:04:57,970 --> 01:04:56,660
demonetized on YouTube and he actually

1654
01:05:00,520 --> 01:04:57,980
put out the videos and he said look

1655
01:05:02,710 --> 01:05:00,530
here's my video it was making money

1656
01:05:04,570 --> 01:05:02,720
before and now it isn't and I remember I

1657
01:05:06,790 --> 01:05:04,580
talked to a guy who had supposedly had

1658
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:06,800
connections at Google he was a friend of

1659
01:05:10,090 --> 01:05:08,450
mine and he was just like there is no

1660
01:05:12,670 --> 01:05:10,100
way they would never do that that

1661
01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:12,680
doesn't happen well of course it happens

1662
01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:15,110
but my point is if someone reaches the

1663
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:17,119
point for Alex to

1664
01:05:22,359 --> 01:05:20,089
Alex Jones where as being you know cited

1665
01:05:24,999 --> 01:05:22,369
and CNN he's being said if they can take

1666
01:05:26,859 --> 01:05:25,009
him down we all know they can take you

1667
01:05:30,069 --> 01:05:26,869
down they can take me down but if they

1668
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:30,079
can take him down for what for talking

1669
01:05:34,150 --> 01:05:32,450
about Sandy Hook let me say that into

1670
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:34,160
the microphone Sandy Hook Sandy Hook

1671
01:05:39,940 --> 01:05:37,730
Sandy Hook if he can be taken down for

1672
01:05:41,230 --> 01:05:39,950
talking about Sandy Hook and that's the

1673
01:05:43,089 --> 01:05:41,240
other thing it gets me as people say

1674
01:05:45,309 --> 01:05:43,099
what he said about Sandy Hook was

1675
01:05:47,470 --> 01:05:45,319
insensitive to the parents you're a

1676
01:05:49,779 --> 01:05:47,480
parent I'm a parent you know what if

1677
01:05:53,079 --> 01:05:49,789
something that horrific happened to my

1678
01:05:55,329 --> 01:05:53,089
kids I would be I would be beyond

1679
01:05:57,759 --> 01:05:55,339
devastated but if I went to

1680
01:05:59,980 --> 01:05:57,769
investigators and said hey please do not

1681
01:06:02,019 --> 01:05:59,990
talk about that do not let that

1682
01:06:04,239 --> 01:06:02,029
out because it's killing me it's

1683
01:06:06,789 --> 01:06:04,249
driving me crazy you're connected with

1684
01:06:09,309 --> 01:06:06,799
it what would they say they'd say I'm

1685
01:06:10,690 --> 01:06:09,319
sorry but you know we got to do our

1686
01:06:12,430 --> 01:06:10,700
investigation the way we do our

1687
01:06:14,759 --> 01:06:12,440
investigation it can't be linked to

1688
01:06:17,410 --> 01:06:14,769
whether the parents are sensitive to

1689
01:06:21,339 --> 01:06:17,420
what's going to be revealed I mean it's

1690
01:06:25,809 --> 01:06:21,349
just upside down the logic of why that

1691
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:25,819
would even be an issue I don't get what

1692
01:06:31,539 --> 01:06:28,130
people are thinking on that a couple of

1693
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:31,549
things because I've been taking notes as

1694
01:06:35,410 --> 01:06:32,930
you've been talking that one thing is

1695
01:06:37,470 --> 01:06:35,420
about to back to YouTube per second is I

1696
01:06:39,940 --> 01:06:37,480
have chosen just to lead it over YouTube

1697
01:06:41,799 --> 01:06:39,950
with no explanation and I know got a

1698
01:06:44,499 --> 01:06:41,809
notice they just disappeared off YouTube

1699
01:06:46,509 --> 01:06:44,509
and also there's this paper for spree

1700
01:06:48,279 --> 01:06:46,519
curtail but I can't anymore

1701
01:06:50,170 --> 01:06:48,289
so for the certain shows you know

1702
01:06:54,970 --> 01:06:50,180
they're just somehow seem to get this

1703
01:06:58,839 --> 01:06:54,980
deleted and disappear now with Alex this

1704
01:07:01,299 --> 01:06:58,849
whole show of okay we're gonna be

1705
01:07:03,549 --> 01:07:01,309
censoring Alex for whatever reason it

1706
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:03,559
may be it's more than likely he's part

1707
01:07:07,329 --> 01:07:05,450
of all that for whatever agenda maybe to

1708
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:07,339
make the rest of us sort of fear you

1709
01:07:12,370 --> 01:07:10,970
know and and be more quiet do I believe

1710
01:07:13,509 --> 01:07:12,380
it's because of his talk about because

1711
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:13,519
he's come out and said no I don't

1712
01:07:16,599 --> 01:07:14,569
believe Sandy Hook or whatever he's

1713
01:07:17,979 --> 01:07:16,609
doing I'm just an actor you know and his

1714
01:07:21,759 --> 01:07:17,989
divorce cases he says it's all

1715
01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:21,769
performance art and I think in what time

1716
01:07:24,430 --> 01:07:22,910
he said people would be crazy to believe

1717
01:07:26,380 --> 01:07:24,440
him and then he comes down he says no no

1718
01:07:27,609 --> 01:07:26,390
no I was lying over there so I don't

1719
01:07:29,290 --> 01:07:27,619
know I think he's part of all and

1720
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:29,300
whatever's going on he's

1721
01:07:34,180 --> 01:07:32,330
for sure in cooperation he's got Trump

1722
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:34,190
on there he's got Charlie Sheen on there

1723
01:07:43,810 --> 01:07:39,010
you know so you know I don't know man um

1724
01:07:46,300 --> 01:07:43,820
and in Sandy Hook you know I want

1725
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:46,310
YouTube I see a lot of stuff that looks

1726
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:48,410
suspicious about Sandy Hook but then I

1727
01:07:52,270 --> 01:07:50,330
slept the details of Sandy Hook I didn't

1728
01:07:53,350 --> 01:07:52,280
want to go there I don't mean in the bit

1729
01:07:54,820 --> 01:07:53,360
let me just finish saying this is that

1730
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:54,830
you know then I meet some of the people

1731
01:07:57,700 --> 01:07:56,450
that put that out and I just find them

1732
01:07:59,170 --> 01:07:57,710
personally that they're flaky they're

1733
01:08:01,300 --> 01:07:59,180
trying to hire me for different cases

1734
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:01,310
and stuff and it's just weird stuff and

1735
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:03,290
they're just they're kind of crazy and

1736
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:06,410
then when I was here in Vegas during the

1737
01:08:10,930 --> 01:08:09,290
Mandalay Bay shooting and then I see

1738
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:10,940
stuff on YouTube and people talking

1739
01:08:15,820 --> 01:08:12,410
about it it they got everything wrong

1740
01:08:17,950 --> 01:08:15,830
that's not even close geography they got

1741
01:08:21,220 --> 01:08:17,960
wrong people's names they got wrong

1742
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:21,230
locations a Las Vegas Metro Police

1743
01:08:25,330 --> 01:08:23,330
Department they caught the LVPD in an

1744
01:08:27,070 --> 01:08:25,340
event right that the Las Vegas coroner's

1745
01:08:28,810 --> 01:08:27,080
office it's the Clark County coroner's

1746
01:08:31,630 --> 01:08:28,820
office just the basic stuff they can't

1747
01:08:33,070 --> 01:08:31,640
get right and you know so and so it just

1748
01:08:35,620 --> 01:08:33,080
makes me even more suspect of these

1749
01:08:38,590 --> 01:08:35,630
things far away that one time believed

1750
01:08:41,950 --> 01:08:38,600
that now I'm well all my skepticism

1751
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:41,960
doubles down the more I go on okay but

1752
01:08:47,470 --> 01:08:44,810
big big step back and and I'd ask you

1753
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:47,480
this question do you believe we should

1754
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:51,170
entertain the possibility that our

1755
01:08:58,830 --> 01:08:55,850
government has staged shootings in order

1756
01:09:00,940 --> 01:08:58,840
to advance a political agenda like

1757
01:09:02,950 --> 01:09:00,950
pulling the teeth out of the Second

1758
01:09:04,900 --> 01:09:02,960
Amendment should we should that be on

1759
01:09:07,150 --> 01:09:04,910
the radar is that within the realm of

1760
01:09:10,570 --> 01:09:07,160
possibility given everything we know

1761
01:09:13,030 --> 01:09:10,580
about 9/11 and the rest of the world is

1762
01:09:14,290 --> 01:09:13,040
it a possibility yeah we got a look at

1763
01:09:15,940 --> 01:09:14,300
everything okay and we left everything

1764
01:09:18,130 --> 01:09:15,950
left and come to it an open mind there's

1765
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:18,140
no doubt about that but after looking at

1766
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:20,930
this is that if every time they did one

1767
01:09:25,870 --> 01:09:23,210
of these shootings and gun sales go up

1768
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:25,880
instead of down I can't see how the

1769
01:09:29,890 --> 01:09:28,010
motivation would be to take away guns if

1770
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:29,900
they want to take away guns the gun

1771
01:09:34,210 --> 01:09:31,850
manufacturers are part of the 1% these

1772
01:09:37,750 --> 01:09:34,220
are piece of them they would just stop

1773
01:09:42,070 --> 01:09:37,760
you you know the other and I'll tell you

1774
01:09:44,110 --> 01:09:42,080
this when Clinton was on the front page

1775
01:09:47,230 --> 01:09:44,120
news about his connections to Epstein

1776
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:47,240
suddenly there was this shooting in

1777
01:09:53,860 --> 01:09:52,010
Paris of some cartoonist okay and when

1778
01:09:56,440 --> 01:09:53,870
they chased down those shooters and he

1779
01:09:58,990 --> 01:09:56,450
had them cornered in any a warehouse and

1780
01:10:00,640 --> 01:09:59,000
a reporter call them up they said well

1781
01:10:04,060 --> 01:10:00,650
we would pay twenty thousand dollars to

1782
01:10:05,380 --> 01:10:04,070
do this okay right now and I think the

1783
01:10:07,570 --> 01:10:05,390
Clintons are more than capable of

1784
01:10:09,130 --> 01:10:07,580
pulling that off okay I heard a couple

1785
01:10:11,230 --> 01:10:09,140
of guys to do a shooting up in you know

1786
01:10:12,460 --> 01:10:11,240
the Muslim cartoons you know boy they

1787
01:10:15,220 --> 01:10:12,470
know how to do this kind of stuff and

1788
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:15,230
also too it's not necessarily when

1789
01:10:18,130 --> 01:10:16,250
you're dealing with these kinds of

1790
01:10:20,350 --> 01:10:18,140
situations that it's the government

1791
01:10:21,970 --> 01:10:20,360
there's all kind of foreign governments

1792
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:21,980
into this stuff back when I would say

1793
01:10:24,010 --> 01:10:22,970
hippies foreign governments were

1794
01:10:25,390 --> 01:10:24,020
infiltrating me when I was doing the

1795
01:10:27,010 --> 01:10:25,400
Sarah Palin investigations foreign

1796
01:10:29,050 --> 01:10:27,020
governments were infiltrating me so this

1797
01:10:32,860 --> 01:10:29,060
foreign governments dabble - there's big

1798
01:10:35,260 --> 01:10:32,870
the oil industry has their own security

1799
01:10:37,480 --> 01:10:35,270
forces and espionage departments you

1800
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:37,490
know this big industry has their own

1801
01:10:41,410 --> 01:10:40,130
forces the Masons the Scientologists

1802
01:10:43,660 --> 01:10:41,420
they all got their own little guys we

1803
01:10:45,430 --> 01:10:43,670
run around doing things for hire all

1804
01:10:47,170 --> 01:10:45,440
kind of mercenaries out there so it's

1805
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:47,180
not always the government either I hear

1806
01:10:51,460 --> 01:10:50,090
there's a lot to kind of a park there

1807
01:10:53,650 --> 01:10:51,470
that we're not going to be able to do

1808
01:10:55,900 --> 01:10:53,660
because I do want to hit on one last

1809
01:10:57,820 --> 01:10:55,910
issue because it's been part of this

1810
01:10:59,650 --> 01:10:57,830
show and it kind of grew into more and

1811
01:11:01,780 --> 01:10:59,660
more of a part of the show because again

1812
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:01,790
I'm a follow the data wherever it leads

1813
01:11:08,220 --> 01:11:05,410
guy I'm interested in the the spiritual

1814
01:11:11,710 --> 01:11:08,230
understandings that we can gain from

1815
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:11,720
analyzing the data in that way and I'm

1816
01:11:17,470 --> 01:11:13,970
just a little bit surprised by the the

1817
01:11:19,420 --> 01:11:17,480
Christian born-again thing on your part

1818
01:11:21,670 --> 01:11:19,430
and and I want to qualify this so people

1819
01:11:23,230 --> 01:11:21,680
understand because I always get in the

1820
01:11:25,150 --> 01:11:23,240
first part of these discussions with

1821
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:25,160
people and I come off like a Christian

1822
01:11:33,550 --> 01:11:30,010
basher which I'm not I mean I believe in

1823
01:11:36,430 --> 01:11:33,560
however this is true I believe it to be

1824
01:11:38,740 --> 01:11:36,440
true that Christ consciousness that is

1825
01:11:42,010 --> 01:11:38,750
if you pray to Jesus there is a real

1826
01:11:44,410 --> 01:11:42,020
spiritual force that will come to your

1827
01:11:48,220 --> 01:11:44,420
aid that is connected to something

1828
01:11:50,260 --> 01:11:48,230
higher something more I understand that

1829
01:11:52,420 --> 01:11:50,270
as just reading the scientific data I

1830
01:11:54,850 --> 01:11:52,430
mean you go and look at the 200

1831
01:11:55,780 --> 01:11:54,860
peer-reviewed studies that have been

1832
01:11:58,660 --> 01:11:55,790
done on near

1833
01:12:02,850 --> 01:11:58,670
experience that are completely denied

1834
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:02,860
and kind of misinformed and kind of

1835
01:12:08,830 --> 01:12:05,810
mutilated by the scientific community

1836
01:12:11,500 --> 01:12:08,840
because it goes against their stated

1837
01:12:14,010 --> 01:12:11,510
kind of dogma but if you go look at that

1838
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:14,020
data it's all over it in terms of people

1839
01:12:19,810 --> 01:12:17,330
experiencing this extended consciousness

1840
01:12:21,910 --> 01:12:19,820
but when it comes to religion you know

1841
01:12:24,340 --> 01:12:21,920
first of all please disrespect my

1842
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:24,350
religion any place you see it is

1843
01:12:29,740 --> 01:12:27,890
don't give me any cut me any slack cause

1844
01:12:31,750 --> 01:12:29,750
any religious beliefs because I'm not

1845
01:12:33,850 --> 01:12:31,760
gonna cut anyone any slack because they

1846
01:12:36,130 --> 01:12:33,860
say they have a religious belief I just

1847
01:12:39,970 --> 01:12:36,140
think that's crazy I've done all these

1848
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:39,980
shows and I don't see where the

1849
01:12:49,380 --> 01:12:44,960
Christian story really adds up in terms

1850
01:12:55,060 --> 01:12:49,390
of you know the Yahweh thing this

1851
01:12:57,460 --> 01:12:55,070
Thunder God of the Jews who then turns

1852
01:12:59,380 --> 01:12:57,470
into as the story changes and you go

1853
01:13:01,390 --> 01:12:59,390
talk to biblical scholars like I have I

1854
01:13:03,790 --> 01:13:01,400
mean I've interviewed so many biblical

1855
01:13:05,350 --> 01:13:03,800
scholars and like I tell people I mean

1856
01:13:08,650 --> 01:13:05,360
these are folks that are arguing over

1857
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:08,660
the curvature of a Greek letter and

1858
01:13:14,260 --> 01:13:11,690
whether that means Sun is the Sun in the

1859
01:13:15,940 --> 01:13:14,270
sky or Sun is the son of God kind of

1860
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:15,950
thing I mean people are getting deep

1861
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:19,520
into pulling the stuff apart the stories

1862
01:13:26,460 --> 01:13:22,970
just don't add up and the historical

1863
01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:26,470
Jesus is on really shaky ground so

1864
01:13:31,660 --> 01:13:29,360
whenever I encounter Christians my first

1865
01:13:35,830 --> 01:13:31,670
thing is you know how much have you

1866
01:13:38,410 --> 01:13:35,840
really looked into the Bible or are you

1867
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:38,420
getting this from a direct spiritual

1868
01:13:43,660 --> 01:13:40,970
experience that you had and you know I

1869
01:13:45,220 --> 01:13:43,670
guess I feel like I hope this okay I

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01:13:47,740 --> 01:13:45,230
feel like I can ask you anything and

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01:13:49,810 --> 01:13:47,750
that's what I'm asking you I would say

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01:13:51,940 --> 01:13:49,820
both okay I've been read the Bible and

1873
01:13:53,260 --> 01:13:51,950
probably a dozen times back to back at

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01:13:55,150 --> 01:13:53,270
where the new Titans test we probably

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01:13:57,970 --> 01:13:55,160
got thirty times even probably more you

1876
01:14:00,780 --> 01:13:57,980
know like I said I live this you know I

1877
01:14:03,340 --> 01:14:00,790
lived with ten ministry fold that and

1878
01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:03,350
met a lot of people you want to take Ted

1879
01:14:08,470 --> 01:14:05,840
Wilkinson you know Ted Wilson

1880
01:14:09,230 --> 01:14:08,480
Time Square Church okay so like I said

1881
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:09,240
I've said

1882
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:11,250
the Korean I said the Bible you know

1883
01:14:16,730 --> 01:14:14,610
I've studied Josephus yes yes I'm

1884
01:14:18,290 --> 01:14:16,740
familiar with that and I'm not concerned

1885
01:14:19,790 --> 01:14:18,300
with that at all he said Jesus was

1886
01:14:20,060 --> 01:14:19,800
magician I'm not concerned with that at

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01:14:22,610 --> 01:14:20,070
all

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01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:22,620
okay just Cephas if you investigate it

1889
01:14:25,370 --> 01:14:24,210
and this would be another one that if

1890
01:14:28,370 --> 01:14:25,380
you wanted to we could look into

1891
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:28,380
together Josephus is complete story

1892
01:14:31,340 --> 01:14:30,690
doesn't doesn't add up it doesn't make

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01:14:33,530 --> 01:14:31,350
sense

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01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:33,540
Josephus is conclusion at the end of the

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01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:35,250
day I mean do you even know Josephus

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01:14:38,090 --> 01:14:36,330
really is because a lot of people say

1897
01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:38,100
Josephus Josephus and they say the

1898
01:14:42,530 --> 01:14:40,080
Christians say Roman historian or they

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01:14:45,230 --> 01:14:42,540
say Christian historian I mean Josephus

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01:14:48,020 --> 01:14:45,240
is a is a is a Jew and he's in it he's

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01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:48,030
of the highest rabbi class but he's also

1902
01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:51,570
a general and the story that he says is

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01:14:56,540 --> 01:14:54,000
hey the Romans landed in Galilee and I

1904
01:14:58,670 --> 01:14:56,550
fought him the best I could and then we

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01:15:01,550 --> 01:14:58,680
went into this cave and we all committed

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01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:01,560
suicide but at the end I decided no you

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01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:04,290
know I need to ally myself with the with

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01:15:10,250 --> 01:15:08,010
the Romans because my Jewish tradition

1909
01:15:13,340 --> 01:15:10,260
is wrong Caesar is the Messiah

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01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:13,350
Caesar is the Messiah this is Josephus

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01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:16,410
claim this is what this is what all his

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01:15:21,410 --> 01:15:19,530
writing is about is that Caesar is the

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01:15:23,690 --> 01:15:21,420
Messiah we don't have to wait for the

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01:15:25,310 --> 01:15:23,700
Messiah Jewish people this is it well

1915
01:15:26,810 --> 01:15:25,320
that's a complete invention on the part

1916
01:15:28,610 --> 01:15:26,820
of Romans is one way to read that and I

1917
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:28,620
think it's right but the other thing is

1918
01:15:32,750 --> 01:15:30,000
that and you'll see the biblical

1919
01:15:35,180 --> 01:15:32,760
scholars will agree to this the Bible is

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01:15:38,390 --> 01:15:35,190
pro Roman because the writers of the

1921
01:15:40,430 --> 01:15:38,400
gospel had access to Josephus so now a

1922
01:15:43,700 --> 01:15:40,440
short version of it you're sitting there

1923
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:43,710
writing prophecy about Jesus and you

1924
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:45,840
have the historical account with you you

1925
01:15:49,700 --> 01:15:47,610
have the you know World Book

1926
01:15:51,620 --> 01:15:49,710
Encyclopedia telling you what actually

1927
01:15:54,260 --> 01:15:51,630
happened in your prophesizing and it's

1928
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:54,270
right out of Josephus that's what's

1929
01:15:59,000 --> 01:15:57,090
written into the Gospels I can prove

1930
01:16:02,120 --> 01:15:59,010
that to you if you want but it's like

1931
01:16:05,630 --> 01:16:02,130
the Bible is not reliable in the way

1932
01:16:10,180 --> 01:16:05,640
that most Christians think it is well I

1933
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:10,190
don't know what to say okay I really

1934
01:16:15,650 --> 01:16:13,440
there's so many Bible scholars that have

1935
01:16:18,130 --> 01:16:15,660
devoted their life to this you know what

1936
01:16:22,350 --> 01:16:18,140
I mean over every little interpretation

1937
01:16:24,980 --> 01:16:22,360
and it's withstood the test of time

1938
01:16:26,940 --> 01:16:24,990
the calendar was changed over this the

1939
01:16:28,650 --> 01:16:26,950
prophecies from the Old Testament that

1940
01:16:31,980 --> 01:16:28,660
are revealed in a New Testament did

1941
01:16:34,110 --> 01:16:31,990
thousands then plus on top of that my

1942
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:34,120
own daily life I've seen the results

1943
01:16:37,380 --> 01:16:36,010
coming from this that's totally separate

1944
01:16:39,030 --> 01:16:37,390
so take the first part of what you said

1945
01:16:40,710 --> 01:16:39,040
and we could deal with that

1946
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:40,720
the second part of it is completely

1947
01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:43,930
separate because I'm with you you can

1948
01:16:49,530 --> 01:16:46,800
have a genuine Christ conscious

1949
01:16:51,480 --> 01:16:49,540
experience I get that I agree with you

1950
01:16:53,730 --> 01:16:51,490
the data supports that the first part of

1951
01:16:54,810 --> 01:16:53,740
that my investigation would say just the

1952
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:54,820
opposite of what you're saying but

1953
01:17:00,000 --> 01:16:57,250
please continue I would end it there

1954
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:00,010
because you know you want to change my

1955
01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:01,710
mind you know I don't think it's gonna

1956
01:17:06,270 --> 01:17:04,630
do I have to justify my faith to you

1957
01:17:08,610 --> 01:17:06,280
like I said I've started to by almost

1958
01:17:10,350 --> 01:17:08,620
read the Quran although the major text

1959
01:17:12,900 --> 01:17:10,360
you know and I believe I've settled on

1960
01:17:16,440 --> 01:17:12,910
this I have experienced it in my own

1961
01:17:19,530 --> 01:17:16,450
life I'm more than satisfied with the

1962
01:17:23,460 --> 01:17:19,540
the preservation of these texts call

1963
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:23,470
today and I'm gonna prompt it where we

1964
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:25,450
started what you need to change my mind

1965
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:29,730
that I don't I know I know it sounds

1966
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:33,040
your mind you need to change mine I get

1967
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:34,810
that it sounds like that I get that it

1968
01:17:38,580 --> 01:17:37,210
sounds like I'm desperate to change your

1969
01:17:39,900 --> 01:17:38,590
mind I'm really not I talk to people all

1970
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:39,910
the time and I get that I just talked to

1971
01:17:46,500 --> 01:17:44,110
the this guy fantastic guy who wrote

1972
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:46,510
this book the the secret history of the

1973
01:17:49,950 --> 01:17:47,530
world

1974
01:17:51,930 --> 01:17:49,960
after that he sending me emails cuz I

1975
01:17:53,850 --> 01:17:51,940
had some of the similar kind of things

1976
01:17:55,590 --> 01:17:53,860
with him and he's a Christian as well no

1977
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:55,600
man I'm not desperate to change your

1978
01:17:58,290 --> 01:17:55,930
mind

1979
01:18:00,810 --> 01:17:58,300
I just I'm pointing out in the same way

1980
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:00,820
that you do that this to me is the

1981
01:18:05,250 --> 01:18:03,250
process this is the skeptical process

1982
01:18:07,020 --> 01:18:05,260
for me it's like follow the data

1983
01:18:08,370 --> 01:18:07,030
wherever it leads and I see and you

1984
01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:08,380
someone who's following the data and

1985
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:09,910
then when it comes to this it's like

1986
01:18:13,140 --> 01:18:11,290
well no I don't really need to follow

1987
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:13,150
that data because I've already done it

1988
01:18:16,350 --> 01:18:14,770
you know it's like I hear all the time

1989
01:18:18,450 --> 01:18:16,360
from people you don't want to talk them

1990
01:18:20,370 --> 01:18:18,460
to about anything like insights and they

1991
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:20,380
say I'm a smart guy

1992
01:18:26,970 --> 01:18:23,410
I read all these papers if that was true

1993
01:18:29,820 --> 01:18:26,980
I would know it it's like it's not

1994
01:18:32,750 --> 01:18:29,830
that's not an explanation for whether or

1995
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:32,760
not you've really dug into the data

1996
01:18:37,830 --> 01:18:36,130
wouldn't walking I suppose I could go in

1997
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:37,840
especially for any current books I'm

1998
01:18:40,290 --> 01:18:39,130
really not interested people come up

1999
01:18:42,750 --> 01:18:40,300
with new theories and stuff like that

2000
01:18:45,090 --> 01:18:42,760
I'm really not concerned about and I

2001
01:18:47,129 --> 01:18:45,100
guess I could go and try to find you

2002
01:18:48,660 --> 01:18:47,139
know flaws and I'm sure there are flaws

2003
01:18:50,220 --> 01:18:48,670
I can't take everything literally that's

2004
01:18:52,919 --> 01:18:50,230
in the Bible but I'm more than satisfied

2005
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:52,929
didn't didn't what I've found I don't

2006
01:18:57,689 --> 01:18:54,730
need to pursue that any further you're

2007
01:18:59,879 --> 01:18:57,699
you're satisfied you're happy and what

2008
01:19:01,500 --> 01:18:59,889
it's really about is is the process you

2009
01:19:04,169 --> 01:19:01,510
know is the process that we go through

2010
01:19:07,770 --> 01:19:04,179
to understand things I mean one of the

2011
01:19:09,660 --> 01:19:07,780
catch phrases of skeptic oh is inquiry

2012
01:19:12,270 --> 01:19:09,670
to perpetuate doubt

2013
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:12,280
I think doubt is a beautiful thing I

2014
01:19:16,740 --> 01:19:14,770
think doubt is a very spiritual thing

2015
01:19:19,110 --> 01:19:16,750
and when I see people who are settled

2016
01:19:21,300 --> 01:19:19,120
I'm always like you can't be settled

2017
01:19:23,370 --> 01:19:21,310
don't be settled on anything always be

2018
01:19:24,899 --> 01:19:23,380
doubting always be questioning but

2019
01:19:26,370 --> 01:19:24,909
that's where I'm coming from that's not

2020
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:26,380
necessarily where you're coming from I

2021
01:19:30,390 --> 01:19:28,330
think your work is awesome you know one

2022
01:19:32,250 --> 01:19:30,400
other thing and I just can't recommend

2023
01:19:34,979 --> 01:19:32,260
highly enough for people to check out

2024
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:34,989
the opperman report you're incredibly

2025
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:38,650
fair and balanced guy any of these

2026
01:19:43,229 --> 01:19:40,330
topics that were that we're talking

2027
01:19:45,419 --> 01:19:43,239
about here you will find deep deep

2028
01:19:47,310 --> 01:19:45,429
knowledge of one of the things I got a

2029
01:19:50,459 --> 01:19:47,320
hitch with before we leave and that's

2030
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:50,469
the the UFO thing I don't see where

2031
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:52,810
you're really kind of engaged with that

2032
01:19:57,149 --> 01:19:55,330
topic and you know take that you don't

2033
01:19:59,010 --> 01:19:57,159
like the Bible stuff okay I get it

2034
01:20:01,770 --> 01:19:59,020
UFO thing it's right out there in the

2035
01:20:05,010 --> 01:20:01,780
New York Times you know Leslie Kean has

2036
01:20:05,580 --> 01:20:05,020
done the story we had her on Louella

2037
01:20:08,340 --> 01:20:05,590
Sato

2038
01:20:10,379 --> 01:20:08,350
comes out and says I worked inside the

2039
01:20:12,629 --> 01:20:10,389
government we knew all this stuff and it

2040
01:20:12,990 --> 01:20:12,639
just is backed up by another 50 years of

2041
01:20:15,330 --> 01:20:13,000
stuff

2042
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:15,340
why are you kind of on the outside

2043
01:20:22,649 --> 01:20:19,810
looking in on the UFO thing okay once

2044
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:22,659
again you know what would you say if I

2045
01:20:28,050 --> 01:20:24,250
told you our bill didn't believe in UFOs

2046
01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:28,060
I don't I don't know I don't you know

2047
01:20:33,300 --> 01:20:31,120
who cares okay okay I'm just saying and

2048
01:20:36,419 --> 01:20:33,310
I've seen things up in the sky okay that

2049
01:20:40,379 --> 01:20:36,429
I can't explain so I can say that

2050
01:20:42,060 --> 01:20:40,389
firsthand right also to once again going

2051
01:20:43,110 --> 01:20:42,070
back to this whole thing you know there

2052
01:20:46,919 --> 01:20:43,120
was at once and I believed all that

2053
01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:46,929
stuff all the stuff that was a fan of

2054
01:20:50,890 --> 01:20:48,110
Kerry Cassidy's

2055
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:50,900
Roger camel right and up but until then

2056
01:20:54,609 --> 01:20:52,489
when you start meeting these people and

2057
01:20:56,470 --> 01:20:54,619
dealing with them and you just find out

2058
01:21:00,129 --> 01:20:56,480
that many of them just full of you

2059
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:00,139
know now can i conclusively say one way

2060
01:21:04,270 --> 01:21:01,610
or the other but I know what's going on

2061
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:04,280
I've known people that worked at area 51

2062
01:21:07,810 --> 01:21:05,690
they're scientists and stuff like that

2063
01:21:09,310 --> 01:21:07,820
and you know you kind of they can't talk

2064
01:21:11,379 --> 01:21:09,320
about what they see there but then when

2065
01:21:14,410 --> 01:21:11,389
there's no indication and that there's a

2066
01:21:16,990 --> 01:21:14,420
they believe it's otherworldly is it

2067
01:21:18,879 --> 01:21:17,000
possible of course it's possible do I

2068
01:21:21,580 --> 01:21:18,889
think that I can solve this on my own

2069
01:21:23,410 --> 01:21:21,590
with the all the disinformation out

2070
01:21:26,229 --> 01:21:23,420
there on these kind of topics and all

2071
01:21:28,959 --> 01:21:26,239
the hoaxing and but are you aware the

2072
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:28,969
New York Times disclosure in December of

2073
01:21:36,820 --> 01:21:33,170
2017 and and that whole thing I mean one

2074
01:21:38,500 --> 01:21:36,830
I think that was a politically SIOP kind

2075
01:21:40,899 --> 01:21:38,510
of controlled disclosure but it was a

2076
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:40,909
disclosure nonetheless I mean they're

2077
01:21:43,870 --> 01:21:42,290
now showing the videos and the

2078
01:21:46,780 --> 01:21:43,880
government is saying we recorded these

2079
01:21:49,180 --> 01:21:46,790
off of an aircraft carrier and it's just

2080
01:21:52,570 --> 01:21:49,190
confirming what we've all known for

2081
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:52,580
twenty years through discs accidentally

2082
01:21:55,959 --> 01:21:54,290
disclosed documents and Freedom of

2083
01:21:57,790 --> 01:21:55,969
Information documents that have slipped

2084
01:22:00,810 --> 01:21:57,800
out in the United States and Canada I

2085
01:22:04,300 --> 01:22:00,820
mean III don't know what art Bell and

2086
01:22:07,060 --> 01:22:04,310
Cassady Camelot has to do with just the

2087
01:22:09,490 --> 01:22:07,070
mountains of solid evidence we have well

2088
01:22:10,689 --> 01:22:09,500
yeah again to do I trust you but New

2089
01:22:13,090 --> 01:22:10,699
York Times and everything they have to

2090
01:22:15,189 --> 01:22:13,100
say I really don't you know and and

2091
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:15,199
could that be accurate it could be I

2092
01:22:19,689 --> 01:22:18,530
don't know and you know I think there

2093
01:22:21,609 --> 01:22:19,699
are things up in the sky we can't

2094
01:22:23,950 --> 01:22:21,619
explain there's all kinds of phenomenon

2095
01:22:26,500 --> 01:22:23,960
we can't explain but what the source of

2096
01:22:29,770 --> 01:22:26,510
it is and whether it's a u.s. secret

2097
01:22:31,870 --> 01:22:29,780
space program or or who knows you know I

2098
01:22:34,060 --> 01:22:31,880
don't know yeah we can say that about

2099
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:34,070
all the other stuff that that you've

2100
01:22:39,220 --> 01:22:35,810
investigated we don't know until we

2101
01:22:40,570 --> 01:22:39,230
investigate yeah and and the more I've

2102
01:22:42,129 --> 01:22:40,580
looked into this I'm like I said it one

2103
01:22:43,330 --> 01:22:42,139
time I did believe you know and the more

2104
01:22:44,890 --> 01:22:43,340
I've looked into this and gotten to know

2105
01:22:46,570 --> 01:22:44,900
these people by you know but the main

2106
01:22:48,609 --> 01:22:46,580
people in the field you know I'm

2107
01:22:50,379 --> 01:22:48,619
unimpressed who are you who do you think

2108
01:22:54,820 --> 01:22:50,389
are the main people in the field I don't

2109
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:54,830
want people like who's that guy well

2110
01:22:58,209 --> 01:22:56,210
Kerry Cassie would be one our call would

2111
01:23:01,430 --> 01:22:58,219
be another one Richard Hogan would be

2112
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:01,440
another one what's that guy

2113
01:23:05,010 --> 01:23:03,760
David Wilcock young people like that you

2114
01:23:07,380 --> 01:23:05,020
know all these stories and stuff like

2115
01:23:10,020 --> 01:23:07,390
that I would find all that stuff an

2116
01:23:11,850 --> 01:23:10,030
incredible I wouldn't consider I'm not

2117
01:23:14,910 --> 01:23:11,860
putting those people in the the kind of

2118
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:14,920
main people I mean I mean Jacques Vallee

2119
01:23:18,780 --> 01:23:17,290
I've never heard of Jonathan's like you

2120
01:23:22,290 --> 01:23:18,790
never heard of Jacques Vallee I mean

2121
01:23:24,150 --> 01:23:22,300
he's one of those Stanton you know San

2122
01:23:27,270 --> 01:23:24,160
Friedman I've heard of Stanton Friedman

2123
01:23:29,490 --> 01:23:27,280
you know not impressed we can't we can't

2124
01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:29,500
go there I mean I know we don't want to

2125
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:33,040
you know because it's just it's really

2126
01:23:39,780 --> 01:23:36,970
not a field that I believe I can make

2127
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:39,790
any difference in you know and like I

2128
01:23:42,660 --> 01:23:40,570
said too

2129
01:23:44,220 --> 01:23:42,670
you know the more you meet these people

2130
01:23:45,450 --> 01:23:44,230
you know talk about it and stuff like

2131
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:45,460
that and then you just find out that

2132
01:23:52,020 --> 01:23:48,610
there's a full-of-shit and and and doing

2133
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:52,030
hoaxes yeah that's that's not been my

2134
01:23:55,740 --> 01:23:53,650
experience my experience is the same

2135
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:55,750
with all this stuff

2136
01:24:00,180 --> 01:23:57,730
I mean 90% of people are full of

2137
01:24:02,670 --> 01:24:00,190
and it's just a matter of sorting out

2138
01:24:04,710 --> 01:24:02,680
you know who is and who isn't and what

2139
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:04,720
they have to say and how what their

2140
01:24:09,180 --> 01:24:06,970
method is and what their process is and

2141
01:24:11,310 --> 01:24:09,190
that's what I'm about is you know the

2142
01:24:13,530 --> 01:24:11,320
process of how somebody got there but

2143
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:13,540
you know what I would tell you this I

2144
01:24:17,070 --> 01:24:14,890
tell you this okay back when I lived in

2145
01:24:18,900 --> 01:24:17,080
Staten Island right one night in the

2146
01:24:22,260 --> 01:24:18,910
middle of the night I looked out my

2147
01:24:24,210 --> 01:24:22,270
window and I saw this big giant UFO

2148
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:24,220
okay there's big look like the Batman

2149
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:26,050
you know the Batman signaler they would

2150
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:27,730
achieve you know it was like halfway you

2151
01:24:31,020 --> 01:24:28,930
could barely see make it up through the

2152
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:31,030
clouds it was the size of the Staten

2153
01:24:36,420 --> 01:24:34,330
Island more it was huge right and I sort

2154
01:24:37,500 --> 01:24:36,430
of have like a little paralysis to over

2155
01:24:40,470 --> 01:24:37,510
this kind of thing so i was like frozen

2156
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:40,480
the next day I woke up I thought well

2157
01:24:44,370 --> 01:24:41,890
you know did I really see that was it a

2158
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:44,380
dream what was it right and when I went

2159
01:24:48,570 --> 01:24:46,290
down a couple days later to the mailbox

2160
01:24:51,540 --> 01:24:48,580
someone had put up a note saying did

2161
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:51,550
anybody else see that giant UFO okay so

2162
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:52,960
obviously other people had seen this too

2163
01:24:57,660 --> 01:24:55,210
so this is all my soul my own eyes it

2164
01:24:59,130 --> 01:24:57,670
could not be I can't imagine that this

2165
01:25:00,510 --> 01:24:59,140
could be built on the earth it would

2166
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:00,520
have to be built in outer space or and

2167
01:25:06,270 --> 01:25:02,170
all up in here somehow it was just too

2168
01:25:09,390 --> 01:25:06,280
big you know now was it mass hypnosis

2169
01:25:12,210 --> 01:25:09,400
it wasn't an illusion was it a hologram

2170
01:25:14,190 --> 01:25:12,220
I don't know it could be anything you

2171
01:25:16,740 --> 01:25:14,200
know and I haven't devoted my life to

2172
01:25:18,660 --> 01:25:16,750
studying that kind of thing in a and but

2173
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:18,670
the people who I've met who have kind of

2174
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:19,930
devoted their lives to studying these

2175
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:21,730
things I'm just unimpressed with I'm

2176
01:25:25,770 --> 01:25:23,770
impressed with a lot of them I mean I

2177
01:25:27,630 --> 01:25:25,780
had Lesley came at the show on the show

2178
01:25:28,710 --> 01:25:27,640
and she's the one who wrote the New York

2179
01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:28,720
Times article

2180
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:30,880
she's an impressive person in general

2181
01:25:35,460 --> 01:25:33,010
and has done other good investigative

2182
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:35,470
work Richard Dolan I think is pretty

2183
01:25:39,900 --> 01:25:37,330
impressive guy I'm trying to get him on

2184
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:39,910
the show but Grant Cameron you know the

2185
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:41,890
other guy I've had on the show and yeah

2186
01:25:46,620 --> 01:25:44,650
Jacques filet people inside are just in

2187
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:46,630
awe of his accomplishments you know he's

2188
01:25:51,480 --> 01:25:49,600
a PhD in physics and really well

2189
01:25:53,100 --> 01:25:51,490
connected in Silicon Valley and has been

2190
01:25:55,260 --> 01:25:53,110
in the middle a lot of things and I

2191
01:25:57,330 --> 01:25:55,270
think Stan Friedman is is solid

2192
01:25:59,640 --> 01:25:57,340
everything I've you know you can agree

2193
01:26:01,890 --> 01:25:59,650
and disagree with anyone but there's a

2194
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:01,900
lot there's a lot there I think it's one

2195
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:03,250
of the most fundamental important

2196
01:26:07,830 --> 01:26:05,170
questions that we can ask in terms of

2197
01:26:09,690 --> 01:26:07,840
the who are we thing and again I guess

2198
01:26:11,430 --> 01:26:09,700
you know I don't want to get back into

2199
01:26:12,990 --> 01:26:11,440
the Christian thing but I do see that a

2200
01:26:15,150 --> 01:26:13,000
lot with Christians it's like hey man

2201
01:26:16,290 --> 01:26:15,160
that's settled that's answered I don't

2202
01:26:19,350 --> 01:26:16,300
really want to look at anything that

2203
01:26:22,740 --> 01:26:19,360
might challenge that in some other way

2204
01:26:25,830 --> 01:26:22,750
but I don't want to go there because we

2205
01:26:27,780 --> 01:26:25,840
got to wrap this thing up and I want to

2206
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:27,790
give you a chance to kind of put a put a

2207
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:29,530
wrap on this because I appreciate your

2208
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:31,570
openness and your disability to kind of

2209
01:26:37,140 --> 01:26:33,610
throw some things around that are kind

2210
01:26:39,870 --> 01:26:37,150
of outside your normal a swing zone so

2211
01:26:41,610 --> 01:26:39,880
what do you think it well I wouldn't say

2212
01:26:42,690 --> 01:26:41,620
that anybody should stop looking at you

2213
01:26:44,310 --> 01:26:42,700
if I was you can do whatever you want

2214
01:26:47,460 --> 01:26:44,320
you know look into that well they want

2215
01:26:48,750 --> 01:26:47,470
you know I have no no to just I don't

2216
01:26:53,250 --> 01:26:48,760
know it just doesn't interest me I'm

2217
01:26:54,510 --> 01:26:53,260
just not into that as far as like wrap

2218
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:54,520
things up like how to find me that kind

2219
01:26:58,230 --> 01:26:57,010
of thing definitely how to find you in

2220
01:27:01,290 --> 01:26:58,240
and also you know you mentioned at the

2221
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:01,300
beginning why people might find you and

2222
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:03,130
I think what do people come to you for

2223
01:27:08,190 --> 01:27:05,890
that you can definitely help people with

2224
01:27:11,550 --> 01:27:08,200
where they might be having a problem in

2225
01:27:14,580 --> 01:27:11,560
terms of private investigation well one

2226
01:27:17,670 --> 01:27:14,590
thing if you are if you're some kind of

2227
01:27:20,130 --> 01:27:17,680
a victim like I'm me to case okay we're

2228
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:20,140
all set up for that okay if you if you

2229
01:27:23,550 --> 01:27:22,330
have a situation where you've been

2230
01:27:25,050 --> 01:27:23,560
sexually harassed or something like that

2231
01:27:27,570 --> 01:27:25,060
I got all the lawyers all set up for you

2232
01:27:28,050 --> 01:27:27,580
we can document your case and get your

2233
01:27:29,790 --> 01:27:28,060
settlement we

2234
01:27:31,260 --> 01:27:29,800
can do that for sure I said anything

2235
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:31,270
like that and kind of whistleblower kind

2236
01:27:35,430 --> 01:27:32,650
of stuff like that come to me I can

2237
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:35,440
definitely help you out and regular P

2238
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:36,850
nice stuff adoption investigation you

2239
01:27:40,890 --> 01:27:39,370
know even extortion cases and stuff like

2240
01:27:42,150 --> 01:27:40,900
that I've had clients being extorted and

2241
01:27:43,890 --> 01:27:42,160
blackmailed and stuff like that we've

2242
01:27:46,290 --> 01:27:43,900
been able to resolve their cases all

2243
01:27:49,260 --> 01:27:46,300
kinds of a stalker intervention kinds of

2244
01:27:50,730 --> 01:27:49,270
things so there's all that if any kind

2245
01:27:53,910 --> 01:27:50,740
of information want to get a hold of me

2246
01:27:55,170 --> 01:27:53,920
through the the radio show you know

2247
01:27:56,700 --> 01:27:55,180
whistleblower you've got some kind of

2248
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:56,710
information a case here you want to

2249
01:28:00,030 --> 01:27:58,090
expose were always interested in that

2250
01:28:00,780 --> 01:28:00,040
kind of stuff as well you can find me on

2251
01:28:03,390 --> 01:28:00,790
my website

2252
01:28:05,670 --> 01:28:03,400
Opperman report.com or you can email me

2253
01:28:07,980 --> 01:28:05,680
it's an operand report at gmail.com or

2254
01:28:09,570 --> 01:28:07,990
if you have a p9 kind of stuff i prefer

2255
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:09,580
it goes to Oppermann investigations at

2256
01:28:14,340 --> 01:28:11,530
gmail.com i got a website called email

2257
01:28:15,990 --> 01:28:14,350
revealer comm where we trace emails and

2258
01:28:18,270 --> 01:28:16,000
locate people identify people from their

2259
01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:18,280
email address and all kinds of digital

2260
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:19,690
forensics you could find on there too as

2261
01:28:25,050 --> 01:28:22,690
well my members section and Opperman

2262
01:28:27,390 --> 01:28:25,060
reports comm all kinds of exclusive

2263
01:28:29,940 --> 01:28:27,400
stuff that you won't find anywhere else

2264
01:28:32,610 --> 01:28:29,950
really some good stuff - Steve BAM ins

2265
01:28:33,900 --> 01:28:32,620
porn and meth house I did exclusive

2266
01:28:36,900 --> 01:28:33,910
reporting there in the McMartin

2267
01:28:37,950 --> 01:28:36,910
preschool case where we had via the the

2268
01:28:41,010 --> 01:28:37,960
scientists who did the

2269
01:28:42,420 --> 01:28:41,020
ground-penetrating radar radar exclusive

2270
01:28:44,910 --> 01:28:42,430
interview with him no one's interviewed

2271
01:28:47,010 --> 01:28:44,920
him in 30 years and he's an eyewitness

2272
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:47,020
to a hand-dug room that was underneath

2273
01:28:50,310 --> 01:28:48,130
the garage next to the McMartin

2274
01:28:51,690 --> 01:28:50,320
preschool and just to put just to put a

2275
01:28:54,770 --> 01:28:51,700
headline on that because it's super

2276
01:28:57,090 --> 01:28:54,780
important and I do hope despite me

2277
01:28:59,060 --> 01:28:57,100
hanging you here I can't have you back

2278
01:29:03,270 --> 01:28:59,070
on to talk about some of this stuff

2279
01:29:05,580 --> 01:29:03,280
satanic ritual abuse is real the whole

2280
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:05,590
thing that they've kind of spun this

2281
01:29:10,950 --> 01:29:08,410
story that it's all false memory is the

2282
01:29:12,870 --> 01:29:10,960
real head fake on that you have that

2283
01:29:16,140 --> 01:29:12,880
thoroughly covered right am I getting

2284
01:29:17,610 --> 01:29:16,150
that right I would say so yeah it's

2285
01:29:19,740 --> 01:29:17,620
definitely real there was more than eyes

2286
01:29:21,390 --> 01:29:19,750
Satanism out there you know and there's

2287
01:29:23,190 --> 01:29:21,400
no doubt in my mind about that and

2288
01:29:24,450 --> 01:29:23,200
really high levels in high places and

2289
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:24,460
very organized

2290
01:29:29,490 --> 01:29:26,650
so there's members section you're gonna

2291
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:29,500
find tons of content there and and stuff

2292
01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:32,290
that people can get to right yeah if you

2293
01:29:35,610 --> 01:29:33,760
want to get a discount you can email me

2294
01:29:37,650 --> 01:29:35,620
I'll give you a thirteen months for $65

2295
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:37,660
great I hope people take you up on that

2296
01:29:41,910 --> 01:29:40,690
ed it's been just awesome getting to

2297
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:41,920
know your work

2298
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:44,130
a huge fan going forward and I

2299
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:46,210
appreciate you straightening me out

2300
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:49,930
about Trump hmm I can finally get off

2301
01:29:56,190 --> 01:29:53,050
the fantasy world that I was in that

2302
01:29:57,900 --> 01:29:56,200
this guy might be somehow legit I guess

2303
01:30:00,960 --> 01:29:57,910
I knew in my heart of hearts he wasn't

2304
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:00,970
but that's one I can put to bed yeah

2305
01:30:03,540 --> 01:30:02,290
there's a lot of fantasy out there as a

2306
01:30:05,610 --> 01:30:03,550
matter of fact they just did a clip from

2307
01:30:07,410 --> 01:30:05,620
we're cuddle Montalban saying welcome to

2308
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:07,420
Fantasy Island I'm gonna be popping in

2309
01:30:14,310 --> 01:30:10,690
there when I started going through these

2310
01:30:16,380 --> 01:30:14,320
topics you know nice yeah thank you so

2311
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:16,390
much I really enjoyed this thanks again

2312
01:30:20,940 --> 01:30:18,250
to Ed opperman for joining me today on

2313
01:30:23,940 --> 01:30:20,950
skeptic oh I have to stand by my

2314
01:30:26,370 --> 01:30:23,950
original claim at the beginning at opera

2315
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:26,380
man is fantastic I've learned a lot from

2316
01:30:30,810 --> 01:30:28,770
a lot of the interviews that he's done

2317
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:30,820
there's a ton of valuable information

2318
01:30:36,570 --> 01:30:33,130
that I just haven't found anyplace else

2319
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:36,580
at the same time as you heard in this

2320
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:39,250
interview man we all have to check each

2321
01:30:44,190 --> 01:30:42,010
other and we all have to understand

2322
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:44,200
where we're coming from and our beliefs

2323
01:30:48,660 --> 01:30:46,330
and our limitations and our worldviews

2324
01:30:51,060 --> 01:30:48,670
and all that stuff is kind of laid bare

2325
01:30:53,490 --> 01:30:51,070
here in a way that I think is

2326
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:53,500
interesting and is also challenging in a

2327
01:30:57,510 --> 01:30:55,570
lot of ways so it's going to be

2328
01:30:59,910 --> 01:30:57,520
difficult to tee up just one question

2329
01:31:02,370 --> 01:30:59,920
from this interview because there's many

2330
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:02,380
and there's also a lot of inside

2331
01:31:08,460 --> 01:31:05,530
baseball going on here I wanted to kind

2332
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:08,470
of keep it rapid-fire and I want to

2333
01:31:13,290 --> 01:31:10,570
cover a lot of stuff with Ed but I

2334
01:31:15,750 --> 01:31:13,300
realized that I probably lost a lot of

2335
01:31:17,820 --> 01:31:15,760
people in the process because just like

2336
01:31:20,730 --> 01:31:17,830
everyone else there's little corners of

2337
01:31:22,770 --> 01:31:20,740
this big ol map that I've dug into more

2338
01:31:25,140 --> 01:31:22,780
and maybe some other people haven't dug

2339
01:31:27,030 --> 01:31:25,150
into more I don't know so so if there is

2340
01:31:29,430 --> 01:31:27,040
that kind of inside baseball stuff going

2341
01:31:31,620 --> 01:31:29,440
on and you don't know I mean please come

2342
01:31:33,390 --> 01:31:31,630
out of the skeptical forum join us over

2343
01:31:36,060 --> 01:31:33,400
there by the way it's it's really picked

2344
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:36,070
up I really appreciate people coming

2345
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:37,810
back so many of you have been there

2346
01:31:42,210 --> 01:31:39,610
before I've come back we have some new

2347
01:31:44,460 --> 01:31:42,220
software there that's really nice it

2348
01:31:47,670 --> 01:31:44,470
seems to work smoother and it's just

2349
01:31:49,470 --> 01:31:47,680
great to see the fantastic comments we

2350
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:49,480
get it's unbelievable it's always been

2351
01:31:52,620 --> 01:31:51,610
one of the real strengths of this show

2352
01:31:56,669 --> 01:31:52,630
is the

2353
01:31:58,919 --> 01:31:56,679
brainpower that gets apply to the

2354
01:32:01,530 --> 01:31:58,929
skeptical forum after some of these

2355
01:32:03,990 --> 01:32:01,540
shows so if you do have questions or if

2356
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:04,000
there is something that was unclear come

2357
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:04,570
over there

2358
01:32:08,459 --> 01:32:06,610
put it down there and I'll probably

2359
01:32:11,250 --> 01:32:08,469
respond to it or if not somebody else

2360
01:32:13,140 --> 01:32:11,260
will and and I'm sure that you'll get

2361
01:32:15,689 --> 01:32:13,150
the answer that you're looking for there

2362
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:15,699
but since I usually tee up one question

2363
01:32:19,470 --> 01:32:17,650
from these interviews I don't want to

2364
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:19,480
break that trend and the one question

2365
01:32:25,890 --> 01:32:23,290
that I up is is it worth it trying to

2366
01:32:28,890 --> 01:32:25,900
find the truth when it comes to these

2367
01:32:33,270 --> 01:32:28,900
when it comes to these highly charged

2368
01:32:36,510 --> 01:32:33,280
public political expose kind of things

2369
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:36,520
is this an area that we should just

2370
01:32:41,339 --> 01:32:38,530
avoid because we know it's going to be

2371
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:41,349
so fraught with misinformation

2372
01:32:46,500 --> 01:32:44,530
disinformation differing opinions that

2373
01:32:49,500 --> 01:32:46,510
are going to upset people should we just

2374
01:32:51,060 --> 01:32:49,510
bypass the whole thing completely or

2375
01:32:53,819 --> 01:32:51,070
some of these questions and some of

2376
01:32:56,430 --> 01:32:53,829
these facts about our leaders so

2377
01:32:58,830 --> 01:32:56,440
important that we should try and dig for

2378
01:33:00,569 --> 01:32:58,840
these answers so there are a couple of

2379
01:33:03,510 --> 01:33:00,579
questions and I guess I'd add one more I

2380
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:03,520
said one question but it's a bunch how

2381
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:08,250
does this relate to your personal

2382
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:11,770
spirituality to what extent can these

2383
01:33:19,319 --> 01:33:15,489
questions allow us to better understand

2384
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:19,329
what we should do so there I'll kind of

2385
01:33:23,129 --> 01:33:20,650
let it out let me know what you think

2386
01:33:25,950 --> 01:33:23,139
again preferred choice skeptical forum

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from you and check out the skeptical

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shows all there for free use them how

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you like that's it for this episode

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until next time take care and bye for

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it wasn't really a video but just an

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audio stored as a video I apologize but

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there's more videos out there as well

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